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    LONDON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed in violence since the U.S.-led invasion last year, American public health experts have calculated in a report that estimates there were 100,000 "excess deaths" in 18 months.

    The rise in the death rate was mainly due to violence and much of it was caused by U.S. air strikes on towns and cities.

    "Making conservative assumptions, we think that about 100,000 excess deaths, or more have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq," said Les Roberts of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in a report published online by The Lancet medical journal.

    "The use of air power in areas with lots of civilians appears to be killing a lot of women and children," Roberts told Reuters.


    The report came just days before the U.S. presidential election in which the Iraq war has been a major issue.


    Mortality was already high in Iraq before the war because of United Nations sanctions blocking food and medical imports but the researchers described what they found as shocking.


    The new figures are based on surveys done by the researchers in Iraq in September 2004. They compared Iraqi deaths during 14.6 months before the invasion in March 2003 and the 17.8 months after it by conducting household surveys in randomly selected neighborhoods.


    Previous estimates based on think tank and media sources put the Iraqi civilian death toll at up to 16,053 and military fatalities as high as 6,370.


    By comparison about 849 U.S. military were killed in combat or attacks and another 258 died in accidents or incidents not related to fighting, according to the Pentagon.


    VERY BAD FOR IRAQI CIVILIANS


    The researchers blamed air strikes for many of the deaths.


    "What we have evidence of is the use of air power in populated urban areas and the bad consequences of it," Roberts said.


    Gilbert Burnham, who collaborated on the research, said U.S. military action in Iraq was "very bad for Iraqi civilians."


    "We were not expecting the level of deaths from violence that we found in this study and we hope this will lead to some serious discussions of how military and political aims can be achieved in a way that is not so detrimental to civilians populations," he told Reuters in an interview.


    The researchers did 33 cluster surveys of 30 households each, recording the date, circumstances and cause of deaths.


    They found that the risk of death from violence in the period after the invasion was 58 times higher than before the war.


    Before the war the major causes of death were heart attacks, chronic disorders and accidents. That changed after the war.


    Two-thirds of violent deaths in the study were reported in Falluja, the insurgent held city 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad which had been repeatedly hit by U.S. air strikes.


    "Our results need further verification and should lead to changes to reduce non-combatant deaths from air strikes," Roberts added in the study.


    Richard Horton, editor of The Lancet, said the research which was submitted to the journal earlier this month had been peer-reviewed, edited and fast-tracked for publication because of its importance in the evolving security situation in Iraq.


    "But these findings also raise questions for those far removed from Iraq -- in the governments of the countries responsible for launching a pre-emptive war," Horton said in an editorial.


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    Funny how they forgot to add suicide bombings, car bombings and insurgent ambushes into the mix....
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    • #3
      100,000 death toll after the WAR...suicide bombings and car bombs only kill of a handfull of people...and iraqi insurgents wont attack each other, cos thier fucking insurgents protecting thier country from US occupaction....that only leaves the rest of death toll in the hands of the US army.

      funny how all you bush supporters act so typical when it comes to voluntery ignorance.
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      • #4
        They should have surrendered and threw down their weapons during the initial 2 weeks of the invasion of Baghdad, and should realize they're worse then terrorists using the methods they are. They also need to realize the future to peace in the middle east is through democracy and seperating religion and government. Their fault.

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        • #5
          Yeah.. I was sad to hear that many had died.. most sources have said there were only 15 to 20 thousand deaths.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MidwestSwing
            They should have surrendered and threw down their weapons during the initial 2 weeks of the invasion of Baghdad.
            Maybe they would have if we weren't excessively bombing all of their villages and mosques.
            Originally posted by MidwestSwing
            Their fault.
            You're an idiot.

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            • #7
              Whereismarshall go ahead and vote for kerry and I'm going to laugh when he sends your cousin or gfs brother to iraq since he's proposed sending MORE troops, or I'll just simply not feel any sympathy when one of your family members is blown up since kerry's 1.5 trillion proposed spending plan wouldnt improve national security whatsoever.

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              • #8
                and by saying their deaths are OUR fault you're a fucking retard. You need to do some research on the middle east before you make posts here.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Triumph
                  Funny how they forgot to add suicide bombings, car bombings and insurgent ambushes into the mix....

                  i cant believe that this is your response to knowing 100,000 civilian lives were lost...



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MidwestSwing
                    Whereismarshall go ahead and vote for kerry and I'm going to laugh when he sends your cousin or gfs brother to iraq since he's proposed sending MORE troops, or I'll just simply not feel any sympathy when one of your family members is blown up since kerry's 1.5 trillion proposed spending plan wouldnt improve national security whatsoever.

                    thats pathetic man, real fuckin pathetic


                    you act like bush doesnt already have a backdoor draft in place. he's leaving thousands of troops unknowing of the broken promises about their served time in Iraq



                    you say kerry plans to send more troops to iraq as if he's simply to sending them to their death beds. KERRY ONLY WANTS TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS TO EVENTUALLY GET OUR TROOPS HOME.

                    HE HAS A FUCKIN P-L-A-N TO GETTING OUR TROOPS HOME

                    peep it yourself...
                    http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/nati...rity/iraq.html



                    he wants to rapidly speed up the training of the Iraqi forces and guess what.....? BRING IN INTERNATIONAL FORCES TO HELP.



                    and whats bush's answer to OUR LOSING CONTROL TO THE INSURGENCY IN IRAQ.......??
                    "we'll stay their as long as it takes"






                    god dammit people, these our options, and its sad to see some of you take the ignorant route....

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                    • #11
                      INTERNATIONAL FORCES LMAO!!! France and Germany will NEVER help in Iraq no matter who is president, they've always resented america even when we helped them before/during/post WWII

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MidwestSwing
                        INTERNATIONAL FORCES LMAO!!! France and Germany will NEVER help in Iraq no matter who is president, they've always resented america even when we helped them before/during/post WWII

                        i dont get it man, since you, like bush, are opposed to international help, and are against a draft....


                        what do you think is the solution to Iraq, because we simply dont have enough forces on the ground to for peace and re-construction?

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                        • #13
                          I never said I was against international help, stop putting words in my mouth. What I said is that no matter who is president, france/germany won't help in iraq, because they felt the war was illegal and they have a very strong anti-war sentiment in europe

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                          • #14
                            uh....so will you answer the question

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                            • #15
                              so we have to stay there till the iraqi's have trained enough soldiers then we can leave

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