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    Bumper sticker evokes road rage
    Her Bush-Cheney sticker sent him into a tirade that led to a dangerous car chase through the streets of Tampa.
    By SHANNON COLAVECCHIO-VAN SICKLER, Times Staff Writer
    Published March 10, 2005

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    TAMPA - Politics has always been divisive, splitting families and turning friend against friend.

    This week, though, a Tampa woman learned that simple Bush-Cheney bumper sticker can bring trouble, if not danger, from a total stranger.

    Police say Michelle Fernandez, 35, was chased for miles Tuesday by an irate 31-year-old Tampa man who cursed at her as he held up an anti-Bush sign and tried to run her off the road.

    His sign, about the size of a business letter, read:

    Never Forget Bush's Illegal Oil War Murdered Thousands in Iraq.

    "I guess this was a disgruntled Democrat," Tampa Police spokesman Joe Durkin said. "Maybe he has that sign with him so he's prepared any time he comes up against a Republican."

    Police arrested Nathan Alan Winkler at his home on N Cleveland Street near Hyde Park within an hour of the incident.

    After finding the antiwar sign in his car, they booked him into the county jail on one count of aggravated stalking, a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison, Durkin said.

    He posted his $2,000 bond and was released early Wednesday, jail records show. This was Winkler's first arrest in Florida, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

    Winkler, listed in jail records as a contractor, could not be reached Wednesday. Durkin said Winkler told police officers he got upset with Fernandez because she "gave him the finger."

    Fernandez told the Times Wednesday that "whatever gestures I made, I made them because I was trying to figure out why he was honking at me and pointing to his sign."

    "At first I didn't know why he was screaming at me," she said. "Then it clicked."

    In her frantic nine-minute call Tuesday to a 911 dispatcher, Fernandez said it was the Bush Cheney '04 bumper sticker on her green Ford Expedition that set the other driver off.

    "I was just almost run off the road by a man," she told the dispatcher at 5:14 p.m. She was taking her son, 10, and daughter, 3, to a ballfield.

    "He just ran me off because I have a Bush bumper sticker in my car. He had some type of - he drove up next to me with - he had a sign on it like hanging from his - from the passenger window, that said something about the war in Iraq. . . . I'm shaking like a leaf."

    Durkin said Winkler started following Fernandez at the intersection of Columbus Drive and Armenia Avenue shortly after 5 p.m.

    "He told our officers that he just got mad at her, so he went after her," Durkin said.

    As Fernandez drove south on Armenia, the other driver pulled alongside her in his black 1996 Nissan, beeping his horn and "flailing his arms," according to a police report.

    He held the antiwar sign up to his passenger-side window, she said, following her along busy streets in south and west Tampa and veering into her path, forcing her to swerve to avoid a collision. She pleaded with the dispatcher for help and tried to get away by running through stop signs and changing directions.

    "Oh, now he's following me! I'm gonna get back on Kennedy now. I don't know what to do!" she told the dispatcher, her voice rising.

    At one point the man pulled his car in front of Fernandez's, got out and started running toward her, Fernandez told police.

    "He just pulled over next to me, he's stopping the car, it's ridiculous, this man!" she said. "He's running after my car. Oh my goodness, he's a fanatic, he's in the middle of the street!"

    She drove along Arrawana Avenue and Habana Street, then back onto Kennedy Boulevard, but she couldn't shake him, Durkin said.

    "He's trying to hurt us. Look at this, what a moron," she said. "Look at him! . . . Idiot!"

    The dispatcher told Fernandez to drive to the Tampa police office near Raymond James Stadium, but she drove instead to the ballfield where she had been headed with her children before the chase. She met with a police officer and carefully described the Nissan and its tag number, Durkin said.

    Officers traced the tag to Winkler, went to his home within an hour and arrested him.

    "This could have been tragic, for her and her children and for other people on the road as this was going on," Durkin said. "But she did all the right things. She showed remarkable poise, she didn't engage him. She called us."


    http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/10/ne...r_evokes.shtml
    Last edited by Master Chief; 03-10-2005, 10:09 PM.
    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. -Reagan

  • #2
    This is after I read about the students who shouted threats at US Military recruiters in San Francisco State. After Ward Churchill says 9/11 victims are Nazi's. After the liberals accuse the US Military of targeting journalists. After protesters in Canada say Bush should be put on international courts, charged with war crimes. Now the liberals threaten Bush supporters by chasing conservatives down in there cars.

    See now, I just laugh at them. I laugh at the liberals, with all their insane ideas and tactics.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by StereoType
      This is after I read about the students who shouted threats at US Military recruiters in San Francisco State. After Ward Churchill says 9/11 victims are Nazi's. After the liberals accuse the US Military of targeting journalists. After protesters in Canada say Bush should be put on international courts, charged with war crimes. Now the liberals threaten Bush supporters by chasing conservatives down in there cars.

      See now, I just laugh at them. I laugh at the liberals, with all their insane ideas and tactics.
      Maybe we should look into subsidizing that therapy Florida liberals started going to after they lost. It would probably be for our own good if it keeps them from totally flying off the deep end like this.
      How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. -Reagan

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      • #4
        This is why America is becoming republican (as if it hasnt been for decades). People are realizing that modern democrats are leaning more left and becoming more fanatical. They have no true leaders. There followers are weird, anti-social, scum.
        Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BriMcFly88
          anti-social
          How are Democrats anti-social? As far as I've seen it's always the Conservative Christians sitting in the corners. It's always the cool Liberals doing cool things.

          You condescending fucks make me want to laugh and puke at the same time.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by whereismarshall
            How are Democrats anti-social? As far as I've seen it's always the Conservative Christians sitting in the corners. It's always the cool Liberals doing cool things.

            You condescending fucks make me want to laugh and puke at the same time.
            Exactly what is your experience with the Conservative Christians sitting in the corners and the "cool liberals" doing cool things? Being that you are not of legal age, as you mentioned in another thread, I'm sure you have plenty of experiences which you can share with us. I mean, a person your age surely has been around the block a few times, right?
            How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. -Reagan

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            • #7
              I'd love for some Liberal to threaten me personally, I'd knock their teeth in.
              http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

              “if somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 52, no. 260).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Master Chief
                Exactly what is your experience with the Conservative Christians sitting in the corners and the "cool liberals" doing cool things? Being that you are not of legal age, as you mentioned in another thread, I'm sure you have plenty of experiences which you can share with us. I mean, a person your age surely has been around the block a few times, right?
                So if I was 18 instead of 17 that means that I've experienced alot more?

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                • #9
                  You are 16 whereismarshall. And 'anti-flag' was a terrible band.
                  Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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                  • #10
                    OH MY GOD! You guys in here are hilarious, should we talk about how the KKK is a know right-wing organization? You all are pure JOKERS!! For every ONE crazy story about a democrat going off the deep end there is about one million stories about a republican going off the deep end. All of you make me sick!!!
                    One convienient location...... somewhere in Africa.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gdillinjah
                      OH MY GOD! You guys in here are hilarious, should we talk about how the KKK is a know right-wing organization? You all are pure JOKERS!! For every ONE crazy story about a democrat going off the deep end there is about one million stories about a republican going off the deep end. All of you make me sick!!!
                      Too bad the KKK doesn't shit and hasn't done shit since the 1960's but do their annual march a year and that is decreasing every year. If you want to talk about bad left-wing organizations, you guys are represented by the socialist party here in america, one of the funniest and lamest parties ever. Not to mention the black panthers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BriMcFly88
                        You are 16 whereismarshall. And 'anti-flag' was a terrible band.
                        IS, is the word. Your statement is now invalid, seeing as how you probably know nothing about Punk music.

                        They use the flag to control us
                        Brainwash us to be their patrotic slaves
                        Programs our minds by controlling what we learn
                        The only difference from the nazis is that
                        Someone tried to stop them

                        Red, White, and Brainwashed! (x4)

                        The government says they're working for us
                        Just as long as we increase their pay
                        But the minute they get into office we're a has-been
                        A yesterday

                        Red, White, and Brainwashed! (x4)

                        The red stands for the blood of all the people
                        We've slain
                        The white for this racist, bigoted foundation
                        The blue for your arayan eyes -- all empty
                        Empty because you're taught to bow down to the man
                        "Fly that flag, that flag of freedom"
                        "Do what you can for your country"
                        Go and fight their wars for them
                        "They're not following in our footsteps,
                        KILL THEM!"

                        Red, White, and Brainwashed! (x4)

                        They call that being a patriot
                        I just call it ignorant
                        If you don't fight to make things better
                        Then you're the one betraying the country

                        Red, White, and Brainwashed!
                        Last edited by w.i.m.; 03-11-2005, 08:14 PM.

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                        • #13
                          I'd be a republican if it werent for the FoxNews, Jeff Gannon, Swift Boats, and all that other bullshit that comes from the republican right. Im a moderate myself and I despise the extremes on both sides... I think Im disgusted more with the far-right because they are hellbent on dominance and they are leading this country in the wrong direction.
                          SpeedRunner

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SpeedRunnerx
                            I'd be a republican if it werent for... Swift
                            Boats...
                            I guarantee swiftboat vets had nowhere near the impact on the election as fahrenheit 9-11 did.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SpeedRunnerx
                              I'd be a republican if it werent for the FoxNews
                              It's funny how people can only list one pro-republican news source that is so blatant about it. How about the other 95% of media outlets that are primarily democratic?

                              Swift Boats
                              Did you take into account Michael Moore, Farenheit 9-11, moveon.org?

                              they are hellbent on dominance and they are leading this country in the wrong direction.
                              Wrong direction how? If you are referring to the Iraq war that was supported by both parties and of which both parties promised to continue during the elections...
                              Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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