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    I have to correct one glaring mistake that the liberals have often made. America was and never has been a Democracy. A true Democracy is mob rule. We are a Republic. To me the Republicans believe in rugged individualism and the Democrats believe in wards of the state. To me the Democrats believe in giving a man a fish and the Republicans believe in teaching a man how to fish. With one party you become a slave and the other party you are free.

    While Bush may be an idiot of a man, fighting Israel's wars by proxy, this is in my opinion better than the alternative, which is having a Democratic president open our borders to Mexican immigrants - just to grab the Hispanic vote. Bush has an unimpressive immigration policy, but he is less likely to overhaul immigration and make it easier for Mexicans to flood in, as Kerry has promised he would do.

    The core ideological tenet of the Republican platform is capitalism and meritocracy. Republicanism asserts that everyone is equal and therefore no one needs social assistance to succeed. I think most conservative whites vote Republican because they privately believe non-whites canít succeed on their own, and a 'fair' system would make that all too obvious. They believe the Democrats and their social programs not only give non-whites a leg up that they do not deserve, but also they give them no reason to self-improve. Essentially the system rewards them for doing nothing, and Republicans hate this. To say Democrats and Republicans are both commies is a little silly IMO.

    One of the reasons the Soviet system crumbled is because everyone was guaranteed a job by the State, and it was hard to lose that job. People became under-achievers because they knew it didnít matter - they weren't being rewarded or promoted in proportion to their efforts or skill set. When I go to Moscow to this day, this mentality still exists, and you see it in business. Retailers don't smile at you when you come into their store and they always seem bored, as if you are inconveniencing them. The Republican system prevents this type of economic malaise. Taken to the extreme however, Republicanism becomes socially ruthless. As we keep going to the ideological Right, we eventually find fascism and Nazism. Communism and socialism on the other hand, are well to the left of Democratic ideology. These systems are designed to protect everyone in society, no matter what kind of stupid under-achievers they are.

    Something well in-between socialism and fascism is probably the most humane and progressive form of government, all things being equal, which they are not. Right now in the USA we have a majority Black population that are in poverty because of racism--they also started out in poverty so it got passed on--and an invasion of Mexicans from south of our border. Both tax our system, stress the welfare state, and create social upheaval. This is why we have trended Republican in the last 50 years, and I would be just perfectly happy if we moved further toward fascism in the interim. It will have to happen anyway just to keep the USA from fracturing in the short term. Democracy is fine in a homogenous society. It is a disaster in a multi-cultural one.



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    edit: This is an excerpt from my older post last year before the election:

    While I am strongly against the support of Israel, if Bush gets at least 1/3 of the ***ish vote that will make me happy. J.ewish voters, with the important exception of orthodox J.ews, tend to be on the liberal and cosmopolitan side of this cultural split, while most Republicans, whether Catholic, Protestant or J.ewish, are on the conservative side of it.

    Most American J.ews are Democrats. In the 1992, 1996, and 2000 presidential elections, 80 percent of J.ewish voters cast their ballots for the Democratic candidate, according to exit poll interviews. But I sense that Bush, due to his removal of Saddam Hussein, his resolve in fighting Islamic terrorists, and his robust support for Israelís government led by Ariel Sharon, is gaining ground among those J.ewish voters who place their highest priority on Israelís survival.


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    The Republicans and the Middle-East Conflict

    "The flurry of pro- and anti-road map activity pointed to a paradoxical dilemma facing the president as he plans his next moves: His strongest opposition comes from political allies whose enmity could cost him in 2004, while his strongest support comes from liberal groups that are unlikely to reward him politically for his efforts."

    "These guys" - the pro-road map liberals - "are not Bush's friends," said Dr. Mandell Ganchrow, executive vice president of the hawkish Religious Zionists of America, and head of his own pro-Israel political action committee.

    Indymedia: http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1614435.php

    MSNBC News: Dems fear Bush's gains with J.ewish voters
    Last edited by D12ForLife; 03-28-2005, 05:15 PM.

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    No. We are a democratic republic. There is a difference.
    no dough ho, you can't fuck with me!

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    • #3
      This started out really good and has a lot of good points but it is largely opinion and I can see where many people might not see eye to eye. I liked it though. It was interesting to hear your ideas. My favorite part, and the reason why I am leaning republican as I get older, is this quote:

      To me the Democrats believe in giving a man a fish and the Republicans believe in teaching a man how to fish.
      Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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      • #4
        Every non-Religious Republican (Bri I believe), should vote Libertarian. I might just vote Libertarian next election.. I'm getting more anti-Government everyday.

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        • #5
          "To me the Democrats believe in giving a man a fish and the Republicans believe in teaching a man how to fish."

          That's exactly how it is. People these days expect the government to give them handouts and hold their hands throughout life, and then bitch at any little thing that happens like welfare funding being cut. It's ridiculous. Everyone in America has ample opportunities to succeed in life, both economically and socially. It's called work ethic, though socialists would like to fool you in thinking otherwise.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by whereismarshall
            Every non-Religious Republican (Bri I believe), should vote Libertarian. I might just vote Libertarian next election.. I'm getting more anti-Government everyday.
            i'm a moderate libertarian myself so

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            • #7
              <------moderate who supports republican economic policies

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              • #8
                Not a bad thread. Although I dont see why people are so anti-Isreal. I mean, I am not anti-Palestine. I do believe in creating a Palestinian state, and I do know that there have been bad things Isreali's have done to Palestine. But I dont believe Israel should be destroyed, and replaced with Palestine.

                Anwway, Libertarians are dumb. Go ahead and vote for them, wasteing your vote by not voting a Democrat or Republican. Might as well stay home on an election day, not even worth it to go drive to the polls.

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                • #9
                  Why's it so bad to vote for something you believe in? I would never vote for the lesser of two evils.

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                  • #10
                    To answer your question:

                    irrational vs. rational

                    j/k
                    Be Humble or Get Humbled

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Angelus911
                      To answer your question:

                      irrational vs. rational

                      j/k
                      "Democrats believe in giving a man a fish and the Republicans believe in teaching a man how to fish."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by whereismarshall
                        Why's it so bad to vote for something you believe in? I would never vote for the lesser of two evils.
                        When you come of voting age kid, you will realize that is the only way you can vote.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, and Lincoln had no chance of winning the election.

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                          • #14
                            he was a republican, republicans traditionally win except for the events leading up to the great depression and slightly after.

                            republicans will keep winning after W as well as long as democrats stay out of touch with the average american

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                            • #15
                              He was in a 3rd-Independent party.

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