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    BBC NEWS
    Puerto Rico questions US ties

    By Jonathan Beale
    BBC News, Puerto Rico

    A recent White House report on the question of the political status of the US colony of Puerto Rico could open the way for a possible change, after more than a century.

    Puerto Rico was invaded by the United States in 1898 and has remained a US territory ever since. But some islanders are now demanding independence, others want Puerto Rico to become a US state - still others believe it should remain a US colony.

    Cuba's leader Fidel Castro has long argued for Puerto Rico to be given its independence. And the arrival of the recent visit of the Cuban baseball team to the island further fuelled the debate:

    The international tournament of baseball, the World Baseball Classic took place on Puerto Rico amid great fanfare. Yet this American game being played on American soil, was also being played by an enemy of the United States.

    Cuba and Puerto Rico are Latino brothers, and Puerto Ricans were among those here cheering on the Cuban team.

    They're both former Spanish colonies that share the same language culture and history - even similar flags - but are now politically poles apart.

    The United States is fighting a war in Iraq for democracy and right here we have people without the right to vote for the president of the United States
    Protestor

    The Cuban team was banned from talking politics but still Pedro Cabrerra, the Cuban team's spokesman, cannot resist a dig at his hosts:

    "The politics that are being applied is the politics of the powerful against the poor," he says.

    It's the kind of rhetoric associated with Castro's Cuba - but even here it strikes a chord.

    On airwaves, Puerto Ricans like Ignacio Ribero - the host of Crossfire on Radio Isla - are now vigorously debating their own relationship with the United States.

    Inspired by Castro

    "Every Latino admires Fidel Castro because he has had the bravery or madness to face an empire that can wipe him out in 20 seconds and he has done that for 40 years and he's still around," he says.


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    "So he has a deep admiration in the psyches of Puerto Ricans because all of us would like to have a little of Fidel Castro.

    Out in demonstrations on the streets, some Puerto Ricans are already demanding full independence.

    In part they're inspired by Castro's revolutionary fervour - he, too, has called for an end to American occupation.

    But there's also home grown resentment. Increasingly vocal demonstrations are evidence of a growing anger and resentment by Puerto Ricans, directed at the mainland.

    But opinion is divided amongst those on one side who argue for full independence and those on the other, who want statehood, for Puerto Rico to be the 51st state of the US.

    Many of those Puerto Ricans who are proud of being American citizens are also ashamed that their country continues to deprive them full voting rights.

    As one demonstrator said: "The United States is fighting a war in Iraq for democracy and right here we have people without the right to vote for the president of the United States."

    'True injustice'

    That sense of injustice is tangible at the island's war memorial in San Juan.

    In front of a fountain, engraved in stone are the names of hundreds of Puerto Ricans who've died fighting for the United States - in wars from Europe to Vietnam and most recently Iraq.

    Kenneth McClintock is the president of the island's Senate and a leading advocate for Puerto Rico to be made a US state.

    "When you see behind us over 2,000 names of Puerto Ricans who served in the US armed forces and were the only members of the armed forces that were not allowed to vote for the commander-in-chief and served in wars that were declared by a congress at which we don't have representation.

    "Here's where you can actually see the true injustice."

    Back at the baseball, few Puerto Rican's envy the lives of their Cuban brothers.

    Yet Puerto Rico is now questioning its ties with the United States. Is America prepared to allow a Latino island to become the 51st state, or even let Puerto Rico go its own way?
    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...as/4851056.stm

    Published: 2006/03/28 16:39:18 GMT

    © BBC MMVI
    Now it makes sense why the FBI assassinated Filiberto Ojeda Rios.

  • #2
    Good article. Puerto Rico's destiny has been put the polls in the past and it is Puerto Rico who has decided to remain a colony. They cannot vote for our president because they are a colony, not a state, and this was their decision everytime they elected to remain a colony.

    Things could change in the future though.

    On December 22, 2005, a task force created by President Clinton and appointed by President George W. Bush called on Congress to hold the first federally-authorized vote ever for Puerto Rican voters to decide whether they wished to continue their current relationship, described as an unincorporated territory subject to the will of Congress, or whether they wish to choose in a subsequent vote among permanent non-territorial options, which the report enumerates as statehood or independence. The Legislature, as well as the political parties, were gearing up in early 2006 to lobby Congress to address the Presidential task force recommendations.
    I would love to see Puerto Rico as a 51st state. If it chose to be independent that's okay with me too. We also have Guam and the Virgin Islands and a few smaller territories to worry about as well.
    Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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    • #3
      This 51-star flag was made by the designer of our current American flag...

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_51_stars.png

      I dont know, looks alright.

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      • #4
        Most good ties are made in Italty, not the U.S... Damn Puerto Ricans.
        Anybody wanna lumpkin?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by StereoType
          This 51-star flag was made by the designer of our current American flag...
          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_51_stars.png
          I dont know, looks alright.
          Doesn't look too bad.

          The next few states we get, if any, should force us to make some needed adjustments in order to keep 50 states.

          West Virginia? Who cares. Give it back to Virginia.

          North Dakota? South Dakota? Who gives a shit? Make a Dakota, problem solved.

          Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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          • #6
            canada should become the next state after puerto rico, then after that maybe the phillipines if they clean up their violence
            ------------------------------------------
            Originally posted by kEgBeGgEr
            I don't have a problem with gays, in fact I wouldn't mind sharing a room with one

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            • #7
              I'm not interested in drinking watered down American beer...

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              • #8
                Canada should become another state. Think about it, nothing would really change for the country. They're laws are very similiar. They would still maintain provinces as "states" and they would be in a much better business environment. The only difference between the two countries is the healthcare system and some liberal laws. Maybe as our laws become more defined down here (including the eventual recognition of same sex marriages) the countries would move together to make closer ties. NAFTA was a good first start. A union of some sort isnt out of the question. I'm sure Quebec wouldn't want it though
                Warpox exposes himself | Editorial 1 4 | 2Pox

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                • #9
                  ^beer isn't kosher. stick to holy water
                  ------------------------------------------
                  Originally posted by kEgBeGgEr
                  I don't have a problem with gays, in fact I wouldn't mind sharing a room with one

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ethan20
                    canada should become the next state after puerto rico, then after that maybe the phillipines if they clean up their violence
                    If Canada became a State, it couldn't just be an entire State. It would have to be divided into a few smaller States. Maybe a unification of the Arctic front as well, since Alaska would also then be connected to mainland America.

                    Quebec would also probably get it's independance, since I believe it says in the U.S. Constitution(correct me if I am wrong) that you cannot force a sovereign nation into statehood.

                    And on that note, I do recognize the Pro's and Con's of Canada becoming a few States. But not many people would go for it here, nor would I because I'd be stuck in a shithole country called the Republic of Quebec.

                    A North American counterpart of the EU is another question though...

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                    • #11
                      Well i'm one step closer too America in terms of healthcare...

                      I'm all for Private healthcare...

                      Canada is way too big to simply be lumped togeather as one state....

                      If that was the case, as more immigration floods into Canada, the single state would be able to rival the 50 other states as a whole....

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                      • #12
                        Oh, yeah. That reminds me.

                        I DO believe however, Canada NEEDS to cut it's ties with England and the Monarchy. Fuck this parlimentary bullshit, so many of our officials are selected not elected. That isn't democracy. We need our own self rule government. I don't want our head of state being some wrinkly dired sand-bag cunt from England with a crown. our revolution is long overdue, dont'cha think DM?

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                        • #13
                          The day the Queen or english Monarch takes it upon him/herself to not give a signiture for a law we pass........Will be the day a revolution is waged..

                          Its all just figurehead bullshit, but I agree, the Brit's were assholes back in the day, and I really don't need the Queen's mug plastered all over my colored money...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ethan20
                            ^beer isn't kosher. stick to holy water
                            Jesus' blood gets you fucked up if you drink enough of it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drunk Monkey
                              The day the Queen or english Monarch takes it upon him/herself to not give a signiture for a law we pass........Will be the day a revolution is waged..

                              Its all just figurehead bullshit, but I agree, the Brit's were assholes back in the day, and I really don't need the Queen's mug plastered all over my colored money...
                              Really.

                              I look at the $5 bill with MacDonald on it and he makes me sick.

                              (He was our first "Prime Minister" of Canada if anyone probably didn't know.)

                              Dude at his death bed said "I was born a British subject and will die a British subject."

                              Fuck him. We really need to get rid of our Monarch system. It's time a Canadian was the Head of State of Canada.

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