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  • Question For The Communists: Do You Think Communism Will Ever Be Achieved?

    I have few questions for the communists on this board. So I guess these questions go for Kyle, Mgenev and D-Bokk.
    Well like the title suggests do you think communsim will actually ever be achieved on a global scale? If so how long do you realistically think it will take to be achieved? and in which nation would you say communism is fomenting the most?
    As someone who holds no political alliance to any particular ideology, I just don't see how it can be achieved especially while the United States remains the most powerful nation in the world. It also seems to me like the ideology is waning as Russia got away from it and China is becoming capitalist. Also most communist political parties don't seem to have much success at the polls like they did 40-50 years ago when the CIA was rigging elections in countless countries to thwart communism.
    Originally posted by Deon
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    They were close in the 1950's and 1960's. But thanks to great leaders like Reagan, Communism has been almost destroyed.

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    • #3
      Corpratism is destroying Capatlism.
      the last vet.before everyone got vetted
      Originally posted by MarshallArts
      Who's got you quoted in their sigs? Are they as equally worthy as those that have sigged me? I just can't imagine it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by StereoType
        They were close in the 1950's and 1960's. But thanks to great leaders like Reagan, Communism has been almost destroyed.
        Why are you so anti? I get why Bri is opposed, his argument is economic - yours seems almost religious, as if the ideaology itself is evil and must be stamped out at all costs?
        "Nationalism is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race."

        -Albert Einstein

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WhiteGangsta
          Well like the title suggests do you think communsim will actually ever be achieved on a global scale?
          Of course. I believe the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in China was the furthest advancement to communism.


          If so how long do you realistically think it will take to be achieved?
          The principle contradiction in today's world is that of oppressor nations versus exploited nations. The imperialist First World has suffered from economic, cultural, and social embourgeoisment. They have became a fat parastic leech.

          Communism is a long way off. The Third World needs to overthrow feudalism and comprador capitalism, then advance to socialism. The First World needs to become re-proletarianized (only through Third World liberation) and then advance to socialism.

          For such a short paragraph, this could take many generations in reality.


          and in which nation would you say communism is fomenting the most?
          All nations were there is a working class exploited from the domination of capital. This is primarily in the Third World, they are in an eve of revolution like the proletariat in England in Marx's lifetime.



          As someone who holds no political alliance to any particular ideology, I just don't see how it can be achieved especially while the United States remains the most powerful nation in the world.
          You have seen what is happening to the united snakes in Iraq. We saw them in Vietnam. They have been kicked out, their strength is a fraud. The national progessive Hugo Chavez is keeping the rats at bay in Venezeulea.


          It also seems to me like the ideology is waning as Russia got away from it and China is becoming capitalist.
          I agree the communist movement has suffered a string of defeats. But the need and cause of revolution has not vanished as the bourgeoisis claimed in 1991, Nepal is liberating herself under the banner of communism today.


          Also most communist political parties don't seem to have much success at the polls like they did 40-50 years ago when the CIA was rigging elections in countless countries to thwart communism.
          The contradictions between the classes in the USA are not strong enough for a revolution. I would say less than 20% of "Americans" would be allies in a socialist revolution, primarily the exploited Aztlan peoples and to a lesser extent Black nationals.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WhiteGangsta
            Well like the title suggests do you think communsim will actually ever be achieved on a global scale? If so how long do you realistically think it will take to be achieved? and in which nation would you say communism is fomenting the most?
            Yes. Global scale will take quite some time, unless Capitalists can manage to fail even worse than they already have. I doubt I will see a revolution in any of the western countries in my lifetime, however I'm likely to see much of the third world break away from the capitalist oppression. I cannot give you a nation, but a state within a nation. Chiapas, Mexico is making advancements towards a truly communist society rapidly and once they have the capacity to industrialize they will be well on their way.
            As someone who holds no political alliance to any particular ideology, I just don't see how it can be achieved especially while the United States remains the most powerful nation in the world. It also seems to me like the ideology is waning as Russia got away from it and China is becoming capitalist. Also most communist political parties don't seem to have much success at the polls like they did 40-50 years ago when the CIA was rigging elections in countless countries to thwart communism.
            US power is already falling apart. Their support from even the western nations is beginning to fall apart and many leftist governments are popping up all over opposing their imperialism. Right now, the US is scrambling to get free trade agreements with as many Latin nations as possible because leftism is overtaking governments very quickly.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by | K Y L E |
              Communism is a long way off. The Third World needs to overthrow feudalism and comprador capitalism, then advance to socialism. The First World needs to become re-proletarianized (only through Third World liberation) and then advance to socialism.
              Is this the policy the neo-Marxist school of thought believe will achieve communism? Or just a personal opinion?
              Originally posted by Deon
              Can easily make threads with 1k+ views and 100+ comments

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              • #8
                No, it will never happen. I'd call myself a communist, even though I'm not a Marxist-Leninist. It will never happen though, you'd have to be crazy to think it will. The world is changing too much, the world is basically a bunch of ups and downs throughout man's history, people aren't obedient enough to abide by communism, people naturally always want some sort of change, and I'm glad humans are like that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tricia
                  Why are you so anti? I get why Bri is opposed, his argument is economic - yours seems almost religious, as if the ideaology itself is evil and must be stamped out at all costs?
                  My arguement is mostly economic, but also moral. I believe that any government who takes away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to protest, ect.. is an evil form of government.

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                  • #10
                    america wouldn't allow that.

                    although i would like that to happen, not forever but for like 3 years or something, u know, just to see what it would be like.

                    i know thats ^^ impossible, but im saying if i had magic powers or something...
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                    That shit is fuck,

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                    • #11
                      This may seem ignorant to most here but what I know is that Communism looks great on paper but because of the way the human mind works what's the point of going to work if going to get paid the same thing? What's the point of getting your work done if the wealth will always be equally distributed? Someone please enlighten me, seriously.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dtweezy1088
                        This may seem ignorant to most here but what I know is that Communism looks great on paper but because of the way the human mind works what's the point of going to work if going to get paid the same thing? What's the point of getting your work done if the wealth will always be equally distributed? Someone please enlighten me, seriously.
                        I swear, I have heard almost this EXACT statement repeated so many times. "looks good paper, doesn't work", I hear that so much.

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                        • #13
                          it's just what i was taught. could you explain to me if it is wrong?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dtweezy1088
                            it's just what i was taught. could you explain to me if it is wrong?
                            Of course it's what you were taught.. It's what all Americans are taught. I can't explain anything, except that Capitalism is way worse than Communism, and has killed a lot more people throughout history. Go read a book or something, don't listen to the shit everyone else regurgitates and accept it as fact.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tricia
                              Why are you so anti? I get why Bri is opposed, his argument is economic - yours seems almost religious, as if the ideaology itself is evil and must be stamped out at all costs?


                              ...His brother was...Eaten by communists... He doesn't like to talk about it...

                              But me, how can I support communism? It calls for the violent overthrow of my country. Cant have that happen.
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