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  • Who are you to decide? Who made you God?

    When we tell the Liberals there has to be a party or body of scientists deciding what is good or bad for society in terms of art and music, they say, "who are you to decide?" We should throw back in their face, "who are you to decide that mega-corporations should decide?" The whole question of "totalitarianism" is based on an illusion that someone is not deciding currently.

    Advertising works which is why corporations spend billions each year on it. If advertising did not work, our critics might have a point, but billions of dollars spent prove otherwise. Advertising is also the reason that looks are crucially important in establishing Britney Spears, Mariah Carey, Beyonce etc.

    It is not true that consumers assess the world and then come up with their choices. Consumers do not wander from business establishment to business establishment analyzing how products are produced and what is available. We are also convinced the consumers would rather that the government regulate foods and drugs--do an analysis of what is in these drugs and under what conditions food and drugs are produced. Anyone who assumes that consumers really want to do the analysis of the products they buy themselves is badly deluded, probably a professional bourgeois economist.

    Consumers go to a store and based on prior ads they buy what is available. It is not an arbitrary process covering all the bases. Walmart stores are big but not so big as to allow every commodity anyone anywhere could think of producing. A few corporations decide on the vast majority of merchandise.

    Mega-corporations choose and then spend money on ads. If a product makes less profit than others, the mega-corporation simply stops selling it. They make the choices. That is the truth even if the commodity sold is completely harmful as with cigarettes or junk food.

    Once we get over our "free will" illusions and realize that people by their millions have been brainwashed into smoking and getting fat, we can start to debate the topic correctly. When it comes to the "who are you to decide" question, [Communists are] better to decide than the mega-corporations, because mega-corporations profit from their products and are not objective about them as a result. Both [Communists] and mega-corporations will make mistakes in what is good for consumers, but when something harmful like cigarettes come along, [Communists have] no vested interest in lying in their defense. We also have no vested interest in spreading ads for potato chips. Even if it is not profitable, [Communists] in power can propagate a product that substitutes for cigarettes while not harming the public. Such did not happen under capitalism for decades until doctors starting getting tougher on their patients and ordering this and that type of therapy.

    That is an example why [Communists are] better than the mega-corporations in deciding "what" to produce in the first place. Their goal is to make profit which simply depends on what is easily available and easy to advertise. The goals of the international proletariat include a sustainable environment, enough food to eat, adequate shelter, clothing to wear and ever-improving medical science.

    Who are we to decide? Better us than Frito-Lay or R.J. Reynolds or Playboy Magazine. People in the wealthiest capitalist countries are the most brainwashed because they think they are not. Anyone who has thought for five seconds about advertising's effects on children knows there is a Western form of brainwashing. It would be better that [Communists] do the brainwashing.

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    Excellent reasoning for Communist control of society.

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    you are just as bad as those religious nuts who try to convert everyone they meet, give it a rest.
    If I can kick drugs, I can deliver a baby

    Charlie RIP
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    • #3
      That's a very infantile thing to say. I have coerced no one into joing a cult like the religionists do, nor would that be possibly through the internet.

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      • #4
        Communists are not the best to decide because their goal is to make a "proleteriat" dictatorship (ie, they get to tell everyone what to do and no one can utter a word of protest). There entire motivation is to place themselves in that position of power, not to better anyone.
        Originally posted by ethan20
        There's a correlation between cervixal cancer in women and un-circumsized penises. Not to mention it almost cuts your bacteria count on the penis in half.
        Originally posted by reservoirGod
        Ethan sure does know alot about dicks

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        • #5
          Once you stop spitting your nonsense, maybe you can look at that fascist in your avatar. Did he not want power? Did he not want authoritarianism? Oh, so I suppose it was only power he was after, nothing to do with India being a colonialist shit hole.

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          • #6
            Why should a doctrine control a people? People are always changing and always getting more knowledge, more advanced, etc. Economic doctrines weren't made for people, just like religious doctrines weren't made for people. Totalitarian communism is basically a religion.

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            • #7
              How is "totalitarian communism" a religion? By believeing its economic and political theories are correct and should be implementated throughout society - if so, this is certain aspects of every political manuscripts.

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              • #8
                There can't just be a paper that every society reads from to find out how to run their society.. That's not how humanity works.

                Communism is a religion in the sense that it doesn't allow for change, it's simply a doctrine which when it is implemented it is forbidden to be broken, it's not progressive at all.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by | K Y L E |
                  Once you stop spitting your nonsense, maybe you can look at that fascist in your avatar. Did he not want power? Did he not want authoritarianism? Oh, so I suppose it was only power he was after, nothing to do with India being a colonialist shit hole.
                  1) Prove he was a fascist

                  2) No he did not want power, he wanted to kick the British out and form a government with Gandhi and Nehru and co. He believed in Socialist authoratarianism for the sole purpose of industrialization, which others obviously disagreed with.

                  3) Communists cannot be trusted because they dont want to rule for the sole purpose of making things better. They ahve special interests, just like every other politician, and aspiriations of power. There is a reason the failure communist rulers you idolize had more power than any western President could ever dream of. There is a reason they spent a great deal of time and money on creating a cult of personality and making people worship them.
                  Originally posted by ethan20
                  There's a correlation between cervixal cancer in women and un-circumsized penises. Not to mention it almost cuts your bacteria count on the penis in half.
                  Originally posted by reservoirGod
                  Ethan sure does know alot about dicks

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kEgBeGgEr
                    1) Prove he was a fascist
                    He fought for the Japanese against peacefull nations. He fought against the British who were fighting against fascism.

                    The Indian independence movement decided to help Britain and the Allies. Not the fascist Bose.



                    2) No he did not want power, he wanted to kick the British out and form a government with Gandhi and Nehru and co.
                    False. Bose correctly disagreed with parliamentary "democracy" as he understood it would be a terrible and blood filled path for India. Idealists like you -- that care very little about tens of millions losing their homes, millions dying directly as a result, and poverty for decades -- do not understand Bose's magnificent plans for the reconstruction of India. Unlike the Anglolovers and racists Nehru and Gandhi, he had a REAL plan of development and would of followed it through.


                    [quote]He believed in Socialist authoratarianism for the sole purpose of industrialization,[/wuote]

                    Well that makes sense. Who would oversee this development? Bose and his supporters aligned with the Indian Communist Party.


                    3) Communists cannot be trusted because they dont want to rule for the sole purpose of making things better.
                    Incorrect. Communists have made life better whereever they go.

                    They ahve special interests, just like every other politician, and aspiriations of power.
                    So why didn't Lenin become a Tsarist politician?
                    So why didn't Mao become a landlord?


                    There is a reason the failure communist rulers you idolize had more power than any western President could ever dream of.
                    Complete untrue. I will not mention Hitler, Franco, and the Supreme Commander of the American army (who have put more people into power than any other organization in the past few decades).

                    The Soviet Union was a democracy, not a one man dictatorship.



                    In the 1940s Stalin was General Secretary of the Communist Party, Molotov was Prime Minister and Kalinin Chairman.

                    There is a reason they spent a great deal of time and money on creating a cult of personality and making people worship them.
                    This yet again is false.
                    Last edited by | K Y L E |; 04-22-2006, 10:05 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I'd rather live in a Fascist government that allows religious practice then an athiest communist one
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                      Originally posted by kEgBeGgEr
                      I don't have a problem with gays, in fact I wouldn't mind sharing a room with one

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                      • #12
                        I'd support all Communist religionists under the dictatorship of the proletariat, that includes some branches of Quaker Christians.

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                        • #13
                          Kyle, where did u recieve your formal education?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ethan20
                            I'd rather live in a Fascist government that allows religious practice then an athiest communist one
                            Surprise, Surprise.
                            "Nationalism is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race."

                            -Albert Einstein

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tricia
                              Surprise, Surprise.
                              imperialism and genocide are not part of fascism by nature. Fascism is an extreme spectrum of political ideaology that has been abused in the past, much like communism.
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                              Originally posted by kEgBeGgEr
                              I don't have a problem with gays, in fact I wouldn't mind sharing a room with one

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