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  • Convince me to vote for Obama...

    What the title says pretty much.

    I'm for Ron Paul, but since he's getting the royal treatment from the media, it's between Obama and McCain.

    So, if you're for Obama, please convince me on some positives that Obama will bring to this country.

  • #2
    Starting with the obvious: The Iraq war.....Obama will get us out!

    McCain will stay.

    Obama's tax plan is gonna benefit the lower and middle class. It's not going to be good for the rich, but right now that's not affecting me or most of us.

    McCain will keep the tax cuts for the rich

    Obama will mandate health coverage for children and subsidize health care for adults.

    McCain won't change a thing.

    Obama has a plan to give college students thousands in tuition in exchange for public service, like working at homeless shelters.

    McCain won't change a thing again.



    Plenty more reasons...I just need something to debate against because Obama is so far ahead of McCain when it comes to what the country needs. The Republicans had far better options. I've heard so many Republicans saying they're not voting at all because they can't stand McCain either.
    GO CUBS


    I make rappers cry, onions
    You can't walk in my shoes, bunions

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    • #3
      thanks for those, anymore people?

      btw, I forgot to make it clear, I fucking LOATHE McCain and don't plan on voting for him.

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      • #4
        it doesn't even matter who you vote for anyway. might as well not vote at all
        Originally posted by FunkySuicideGirl
        Ima sucker when some suck my lip or bite in it
        Originally posted by Syko Squidge
        ^
        fuck off you gay piece of cunt
        Originally posted by Otto
        That shit is fuck,

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        • #5
          The economy is the biggest thing. McCain is a dishonest prick, he's changed his views from moderate to strongly conservative, so essentially now he's planning to make permanent the Bush tax cuts that he voted against in 2001. The economy is the biggest issue effecting this election, and McCain suggests we should keep things exactly the same.

          The Iraq War is another. Obama's famous line: "We must be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in" -- very true, and completely different from McCain's opinion, which is Iraq is going great, and so we should just keep doing what we've been doing.

          Essentially, Obama is offering change in a time when everyone is fed up with the current government...whereas McCain is offering the same policies that are failing right now...I'm not going to sum up all of Obama's policies, but if you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer...
          Originally posted by SteWonYou
          sometimes you have to do what you have to do, and that might involve sucking dick
          Originally posted by Temerity
          understood that you don't fuck with Swizz
          Originally posted by Nianco
          Swizz...*Sighs*..I really hate you so much. I just want you to know that.

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          • #6
            You should vote based on what is best for YOU, not what other people think is best for you.
            Steelers|KU Jayhawks|USC

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            • #7
              vote for Ron Paul cause it doesn't matter

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              • #8
                Do it for Obama girl.
                “Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.” - James Dean

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                • #9
                  Ron Paul hasnt dropped out and his delegates are still going to the convention..don't give up on the Revolution just because of the Media...he's still going strong..just remember MSM will not back him because he speaks the Truth..the elites have a goal to accomplish and anyone who's not for it there not gonna give the time of day...it's been proven the elections this year have been rigged..we can't ignore that and just give up because the media wants us to..we Must take a Stand against our faulty Government before they end up turning us all into their slaves completely! This is no laughing matter it's gonna happen if we let it! They want to control us in every way possible..just look at the National ID card..the "Patriot" Act..and many more things they love killing people and destroying peoples lives..don't let it happen!
                  "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."

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                  • #10
                    I am still voting for Ron Paul right now... but it doesn't even matter anyway because whoever controls Diebold is who decides who wins. I just wanted to see why everyone rides Obama.

                    A lot of people I talk to don't know shit about what he plans to do, but yet they support him..... because it's more of a fad to do it right now; or they want to see a black man as President. It's the only face they see on TV. All stupid ass reasons why.

                    but, Thanks for posting those points so far people...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by spec View Post
                      Do it for Obama girl.
                      I have a cock, btw.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jasko View Post
                        A lot of people I talk to don't know shit about what he plans to do, but yet they support him..... because it's more of a fad to do it right now; or they want to see a black man as President. It's the only face they see on TV. All stupid ass reasons why.
                        There is a lot of people supporting him out of ignorance or for stupid reasons but it doesn't bother me because it's still the right guy lol. That would be so frustrating if it was someone else though.
                        GO CUBS


                        I make rappers cry, onions
                        You can't walk in my shoes, bunions

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Swizz View Post
                          Essentially, Obama is offering change in a time when everyone is fed up with the current government...whereas McCain is offering the same policies that are failing right now...I'm not going to sum up all of Obama's policies, but if you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer...
                          An exact same situation as Australia last year, and everyone jumped on the change bandwagon and now everything here is being messed up by the new inexperienced PM.. I'm not saying Obama is better than McCain, just saying be wary.
                          Nothing is true, everything is permitted

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                          • #14
                            The Real Obama Story Exposed!
                            By JB Williams Monday, April 14, 2008

                            Other than the honor of holding the most far left voting record in the U.S. Senate as a freshman law maker and former black activist from Chicago who has spent the last twenty years supporting the anti-American, anti-white hate sermons of Rev. Wright, we know very little about Barrack Hussein Obama… until now!
                            Agent of Change


                            The Obama campaign is centered on the simple notion of change. But what kind of change are we talking about here? The Obama campaign has remained vague about the specific kinds of change in their agenda, barking platitudes from the stump without offering any real information.

                            Obama has been even more vague about any methods for producing that change and on the rare occasion when a news reporter might ask the right question, Obama mumbles and stumbles off into more empty platitudes or storms off the stage as if the questions were not fair.

                            But the Obama agenda and methods for change may finally be coming into focus…

                            Letter from Africa


                            In a letter received from American missionaries who have spent the last twelve years living and serving in Africa, the Agent of Change comes into focus.

                            The letter opens with “Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent [2007] Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence (over 350,000) and I don’t know the last count of the dead.”

                            The letter goes on, “Obama, under “friends of Obama” gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in East Germany. He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country!”

                            Then the missionaries make their biggest statement, “What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fulfillment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true Muslim way.” This message comes from American missionaries who have been working among Muslim groups for the last twenty years, the last twelve among Obama’s tribe (family) in Kenya.

                            The assertions made by this missionary group are astounding. But the assertions raise questions which are even more astounding.

                            The letter further states, “He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. - By the way, his true full name in Kenya is Barrack Hussein Muhammad Obama.”

                            Americans learned that Obama is indeed a racist when they learned that he and his family have been spending their Sunday’s with the racist Rev. Wright for the last twenty years. But Obama has repeatedly denied being a Muslim, despite his father being a Muslim and his time spent in a Muslim school in Jakarta.

                            Obama is not the only agent of change candidate


                            Obama’s cousin Raila Odinga also ran as the agent of change candidate in Kenya 2007, as you can see on his campaign web site. As an East German trained socialist, and son of a well-known socialist father, Raila Odinga pursues heavy handed socialism in Africa. But like his comrade cousin in America, he uses the acceptable guise of Democratic Socialism in that pursuit.

                            Numerous historical accounts exist and a summation of those reports appears at Wikipedia.

                            - Raila was charged with treason and was detained without trial for six years.[2]

                            A biography released in July 2006 suggested that Raila was more involved in the coup than previously thought. After its publication, some MPs called for Raila to be arrested and charged,[3] but the statute of limitations had already passed and, since the information was contained in a biography, Raila could not be said to have openly confessed his involvement.[4]

                            Released on February 6th, 1988, he was rearrested in September, 1988 for his involvement with the Kenya Revolutionary Movement (KRM),[5] an underground organization pressing for multi-party democracy in Kenya, which was then a one-party state.

                            Raila was released on June 12th, 1989, only to be incarcerated again on July 5th, 1990, together with Kenneth Matiba, and former Nairobi Mayor Charles Rubia.[6] Raila was released on June 21st, 1991, and in October, he fled the country to Norway alleging government attempts to assassinate him.[7] - - -

                            Today, Odinga is co-president of Kenya…

                            Election Fraud


                            The claim of election fraud before an election is even held has become a common tool of socialists around the world, including Democratic Socialists here in the U.S. Used to force their way into the political arena where they would otherwise be unwelcome, it allows them to assert that the “will of the people” was subverted and thereby use the power of the violent masses to force change.

                            In the case of Obama’s cousin in Kenya, he was successful in forcing his way to a co-presidency by these means. However, as the missionaries report - in the chaotic violence led by Raila Odinga supporters, “not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive.”

                            Further Investigation


                            The claims made in the letter from the missionaries would be damning to the Obama campaign here in the states, to say the least. If true, these statements would not only end Obama’s quest for the Oval Office, but his political career on the whole.

                            Before jumping to any conclusions, such powerful claims demand further investigation and upon such further investigation, here’s what I found.

                            In numerous international reports from Kenya to the BBC in England, these claims hold up very well. In a post titled Barack Obama Lauded by Marxists, the writer discloses even more connections and information beginning with “Unsurprisingly, Marxists from Africa to the Americas are lauding young Barack Obama as their “agent of change."

                            There are reasons why Barack Obama enjoys the support of international thugs like his cousin in Kenya, Chavez in Venezuela and Ahmadinejad in Iran. They share a common view of what kind of changes are appropriate for America and the world. They also share common ground in the methods they use to force such changes.

                            A source familiar with Kenyan politics warns Americans to look into Barack’s Kenyan connections before they leap: 

"--Raila Odinga is of the Luo tribe to which Obama’s late African-Arab Muslim father belonged. Obama’s older brother still lives there; Abongo ‘Roy’ Obama is a Luo activist and militant Muslim who argues that the black man must liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture. Sound a lot like a Sunday sermon from the Rev. Wright?

                            He urges his younger brother, Barack, to embrace his African heritage, which he has. Barack Obama has a Kenyan grandmother and several African brothers and sisters as well. The Obama connections with both international thugs and international socialism, is beyond dispute.

                            What About All that Obama Campaign Money?


                            Obama has set historical records in campaign fund raising. But where is all that money coming from since it can’t be coming from the “poor” American citizens he claims to represent?

                            For starters, Obama’s campaign site asks donors “which country” they are from, openly indicating that campaign contribution to the Obama campaign are coming from all over the world, not just all over America. The Obama campaign MUST disclose which countries he is receiving campaign contributions from and why…

                            Just as Obama through his “Friends of Obama” organization sent almost a million dollars to support his cousin’s campaign for socialist power in Kenya, it appears very likely that socialists and anti-American thugs are also participating in the American election process by sending foreign funds to the Obama campaign here in the states.

                            Short of forced full disclosure from the Obama campaign, it is not easy to establish the money trail beyond any reasonable doubt.

                            Fortunately, Obama has been campaigning as a “full disclosure agent of change.” So his campaign and his minions should have no objection to immediate full disclosure regarding where all that campaign money is coming from, specifically out of the country.

                            In Closing the First Part in this Series


                            Though this story provides a much needed glimpse into who Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama really is, it raises far more questions than answers, questions that MUST be asked of and answered by the Obama campaign. Without public pressure to do so, the leftist MSM will never ask such questions and the Obama campaign will not offer any answers.

                            The people truly have a right and a desperate need to know who this man is. They will have to force the MSM to ask the questions if they hope to find out the answer and hopefully, they will do so before the man is sitting in the Oval Office!

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                            "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Brandon6272004 View Post
                              The Real Obama Story Exposed!
                              By JB Williams Monday, April 14, 2008

                              Other than the honor of holding the most far left voting record in the U.S. Senate as a freshman law maker and former black activist from Chicago who has spent the last twenty years supporting the anti-American, anti-white hate sermons of Rev. Wright, we know very little about Barrack Hussein Obama… until now!
                              Agent of Change


                              The Obama campaign is centered on the simple notion of change. But what kind of change are we talking about here? The Obama campaign has remained vague about the specific kinds of change in their agenda, barking platitudes from the stump without offering any real information.

                              Obama has been even more vague about any methods for producing that change and on the rare occasion when a news reporter might ask the right question, Obama mumbles and stumbles off into more empty platitudes or storms off the stage as if the questions were not fair.

                              But the Obama agenda and methods for change may finally be coming into focus…

                              Letter from Africa


                              In a letter received from American missionaries who have spent the last twelve years living and serving in Africa, the Agent of Change comes into focus.

                              The letter opens with “Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent [2007] Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence (over 350,000) and I don’t know the last count of the dead.”

                              The letter goes on, “Obama, under “friends of Obama” gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in East Germany. He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country!”

                              Then the missionaries make their biggest statement, “What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fulfillment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true Muslim way.” This message comes from American missionaries who have been working among Muslim groups for the last twenty years, the last twelve among Obama’s tribe (family) in Kenya.

                              The assertions made by this missionary group are astounding. But the assertions raise questions which are even more astounding.

                              The letter further states, “He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. - By the way, his true full name in Kenya is Barrack Hussein Muhammad Obama.”

                              Americans learned that Obama is indeed a racist when they learned that he and his family have been spending their Sunday’s with the racist Rev. Wright for the last twenty years. But Obama has repeatedly denied being a Muslim, despite his father being a Muslim and his time spent in a Muslim school in Jakarta.

                              Obama is not the only agent of change candidate


                              Obama’s cousin Raila Odinga also ran as the agent of change candidate in Kenya 2007, as you can see on his campaign web site. As an East German trained socialist, and son of a well-known socialist father, Raila Odinga pursues heavy handed socialism in Africa. But like his comrade cousin in America, he uses the acceptable guise of Democratic Socialism in that pursuit.

                              Numerous historical accounts exist and a summation of those reports appears at Wikipedia.

                              - Raila was charged with treason and was detained without trial for six years.[2]

                              A biography released in July 2006 suggested that Raila was more involved in the coup than previously thought. After its publication, some MPs called for Raila to be arrested and charged,[3] but the statute of limitations had already passed and, since the information was contained in a biography, Raila could not be said to have openly confessed his involvement.[4]

                              Released on February 6th, 1988, he was rearrested in September, 1988 for his involvement with the Kenya Revolutionary Movement (KRM),[5] an underground organization pressing for multi-party democracy in Kenya, which was then a one-party state.

                              Raila was released on June 12th, 1989, only to be incarcerated again on July 5th, 1990, together with Kenneth Matiba, and former Nairobi Mayor Charles Rubia.[6] Raila was released on June 21st, 1991, and in October, he fled the country to Norway alleging government attempts to assassinate him.[7] - - -

                              Today, Odinga is co-president of Kenya…

                              Election Fraud


                              The claim of election fraud before an election is even held has become a common tool of socialists around the world, including Democratic Socialists here in the U.S. Used to force their way into the political arena where they would otherwise be unwelcome, it allows them to assert that the “will of the people” was subverted and thereby use the power of the violent masses to force change.

                              In the case of Obama’s cousin in Kenya, he was successful in forcing his way to a co-presidency by these means. However, as the missionaries report - in the chaotic violence led by Raila Odinga supporters, “not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive.”

                              Further Investigation


                              The claims made in the letter from the missionaries would be damning to the Obama campaign here in the states, to say the least. If true, these statements would not only end Obama’s quest for the Oval Office, but his political career on the whole.

                              Before jumping to any conclusions, such powerful claims demand further investigation and upon such further investigation, here’s what I found.

                              In numerous international reports from Kenya to the BBC in England, these claims hold up very well. In a post titled Barack Obama Lauded by Marxists, the writer discloses even more connections and information beginning with “Unsurprisingly, Marxists from Africa to the Americas are lauding young Barack Obama as their “agent of change."

                              There are reasons why Barack Obama enjoys the support of international thugs like his cousin in Kenya, Chavez in Venezuela and Ahmadinejad in Iran. They share a common view of what kind of changes are appropriate for America and the world. They also share common ground in the methods they use to force such changes.

                              A source familiar with Kenyan politics warns Americans to look into Barack’s Kenyan connections before they leap: 

"--Raila Odinga is of the Luo tribe to which Obama’s late African-Arab Muslim father belonged. Obama’s older brother still lives there; Abongo ‘Roy’ Obama is a Luo activist and militant Muslim who argues that the black man must liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture. Sound a lot like a Sunday sermon from the Rev. Wright?

                              He urges his younger brother, Barack, to embrace his African heritage, which he has. Barack Obama has a Kenyan grandmother and several African brothers and sisters as well. The Obama connections with both international thugs and international socialism, is beyond dispute.

                              What About All that Obama Campaign Money?


                              Obama has set historical records in campaign fund raising. But where is all that money coming from since it can’t be coming from the “poor” American citizens he claims to represent?

                              For starters, Obama’s campaign site asks donors “which country” they are from, openly indicating that campaign contribution to the Obama campaign are coming from all over the world, not just all over America. The Obama campaign MUST disclose which countries he is receiving campaign contributions from and why…

                              Just as Obama through his “Friends of Obama” organization sent almost a million dollars to support his cousin’s campaign for socialist power in Kenya, it appears very likely that socialists and anti-American thugs are also participating in the American election process by sending foreign funds to the Obama campaign here in the states.

                              Short of forced full disclosure from the Obama campaign, it is not easy to establish the money trail beyond any reasonable doubt.

                              Fortunately, Obama has been campaigning as a “full disclosure agent of change.” So his campaign and his minions should have no objection to immediate full disclosure regarding where all that campaign money is coming from, specifically out of the country.

                              In Closing the First Part in this Series


                              Though this story provides a much needed glimpse into who Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama really is, it raises far more questions than answers, questions that MUST be asked of and answered by the Obama campaign. Without public pressure to do so, the leftist MSM will never ask such questions and the Obama campaign will not offer any answers.

                              The people truly have a right and a desperate need to know who this man is. They will have to force the MSM to ask the questions if they hope to find out the answer and hopefully, they will do so before the man is sitting in the Oval Office!

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                              There was no point in posting after that, your entire post is invalid on the basis of stunning stupidity. Stop posting your illumanti bullshit and kill yourself.
                              All the world is a stage

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