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  • Science Debunks The Religion Of Evolution

    Again, and again, and again.

    WARNING


    This thread may rattle the otherwise unshakable faith of Theosophists and Evolutionists (atheistic or theistic alike).


    I'll be dropping by periodically to deliver more bombshells on the caged thinking of the delusionary mindset that is plauging the advancement of science and logical thought process in today's youth.

    -payback

    oNe
    Arguments against Darwin? If they can't be rationally rebutted, say that we knew it all along. If that doesn't work, blame it all on creationism. And if that doesn't work, snicker. -David Berlinski

  • #2
    Living Fossils? Yeah...

    The Coelacanth

    "The Coelacanth hates evolution"


    "Hey mom! Look! I'm swimming with evolutions biggest embarrasment"


    "The original discovery of the Coelacanth in 1938 is still considered to be the zoological find of the century. This 'living fossil' comes from a lineage of fishes that was thought to have been extinct since the time of the dinosaurs.
    Coelacanths are known from the fossil record dating back over 360 million years, with a peak in abundance about 240 million years ago. Before 1938 they were believed to have become extinct approximately 80 million years ago, after mysteriously disappearing from the fossil record. How could the Coelacanth disappear for over 80 million years and then turn up alive and well in the twentieth century? Australian Museum Online

    The Coelacanth (see-lah-kanth) is a fish caught in South Africa in 1939 off the coast of Madagascar. Recently coelacanths have also been found in Indonesia. These fish were thought to have been extinct for 70 million years. ( they think dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago !)

    In the 70 million years that it is said to have been extinct, it has not changed or evolved at all !

    The coelacanth was what they call an "index fossil". This means that whenever they found fossils of other animals in the same layer as the coelacanth, they "automatically knew" that it too was 70 million years old.

    Because it is still alive today, it's fossils could be found in any layer of rock (of any age).



    oNe
    Arguments against Darwin? If they can't be rationally rebutted, say that we knew it all along. If that doesn't work, blame it all on creationism. And if that doesn't work, snicker. -David Berlinski

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    • #3
      it obviously doesn't have adaptable genes.
      "Step into my dojo, mofo..."

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      • #4
        Payback, what do you think about orthogenesis?
        Originally posted by NyKill
        it obviously doesn't have adaptable genes.
        Is that your expert opinion? I love how you guys can just brush this stuff off and still pretend to have science on your side.

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        • #5
          i was being sarcastic, ROFL!
          "Step into my dojo, mofo..."

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          • #6
            One species of fish not evolving disproves the numerous amounts of animals that have evolved and do have a traceable evolutionary line? This is a retard argument but an interesting article, so thanks in that respect.
            Nothing is true, everything is permitted

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            • #7
              oNe

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              • #8
                Maybe it didn't need to evolve since it's done so well at surviving all this time.

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                • #9
                  ^ touche'
                  "Step into my dojo, mofo..."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ballisticz
                    One species of fish not evolving disproves the numerous amounts of animals that have evolved and do have a traceable evolutionary line? This is a retard argument but an interesting article, so thanks in that respect.
                    Except this species has been said by scientists to be the origin of fin-to-limb evolution, but it hasn't evolved whatsoever over the years. The priests of Darwinism even went so far as to say these fish walked on the sea floor to better fit their lies.

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                    • #11
                      Interesting discussion

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by D_Bokk View Post
                        Except this species has been said by scientists to be the origin of fin-to-limb evolution, but it hasn't evolved whatsoever over the years. The priests of Darwinism even went so far as to say these fish walked on the sea floor to better fit their lies.
                        So there's a new mystery open, so what? This proves nothing, this doesn't disprove the other evidence that's out there..
                        You religious absolutists think because one thing turns out to be wrong that it automatically proves your theories and that's not the slightest bit true, it just means theres more questions out there to be answered through rational explanation and empircal data, not some crackpot theology that you throw in the void of every single unanswered mystery in the world.
                        Nothing is true, everything is permitted

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                        • #13
                          Just one? Nah...

                          Originally posted by D_Bokk View Post
                          Payback, what do you think about orthogenesis?
                          I don't fully understand the theory or know of any evidence to back it up. "Microevolution" is a proven fact and I believe strongly in selection of variations through nature or through human control so I don't see how an internal driving force would be needed. Do you know where I can read up trusted information on orthogenesis online?

                          Originally posted by Grown Man Sh!T View Post
                          Maybe it didn't need to evolve since it's done so well at surviving all this time.
                          Or maybe it didn't evolve because animals don't evolve. Sure, they change appearances but they never change kinds. To this date there are NO transitional fossils. Macroevolution still remains a myth and animals continue to produce after their various kinds.

                          Originally posted by D_Bokk View Post
                          Except this species has been said by scientists to be the origin of fin-to-limb evolution, but it hasn't evolved whatsoever over the years. The priests of Darwinism even went so far as to say these fish walked on the sea floor to better fit their lies.
                          Not to mention it was an INDEX FOSSIL.

                          This throws there supposed geologic "time scale" completely off. According to their time scale, dinosaurs could be roaming the earth today. Hmm... LOL

                          Maybe that's why we found blood cells still alive in a T-rex fossils. I'll post that up in this thread as well.

                          oNe
                          Last edited by payback; 08-18-2008, 11:30 AM.
                          Arguments against Darwin? If they can't be rationally rebutted, say that we knew it all along. If that doesn't work, blame it all on creationism. And if that doesn't work, snicker. -David Berlinski

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                          • #14
                            Horseshoe Crab


                            "The first fossil records of the horseshoe crab go back 425 million years, yet this living fossil still lives along present-day shores. Its tail, which allows it to walk with ease across the sand and which is used for steering, its two eyes with their exceedingly complex structures, and all its other unique features have remained unchanged over the last 425 million years"

                            "The Horseshe Crab hates evolution?"


                            "Look what I caught ,mommy!" "Son, put that down before Dawkins sees it!"


                            A 450-million-year-old horseshoe crab is no different to specimens alive today. It has possessed the same complex features and equipment for the last half billion years or so. Clearly, at a time when—according to Darwinists—living things should have been evolving, no evolution actually took place.

                            Still mating. Hell, even throwing orgies and no evolution to this date.





                            oNe
                            Last edited by payback; 08-18-2008, 11:35 AM.
                            Arguments against Darwin? If they can't be rationally rebutted, say that we knew it all along. If that doesn't work, blame it all on creationism. And if that doesn't work, snicker. -David Berlinski

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                            • #15
                              There are thirteen species of Darwin's finch, a small sparrow-like bird, in the Galapagos Islands. Each species has adapted - or evolved - depending on the type of food that it feeds on. This is shown by the different beak shapes.

                              For example, the large ground finch has developed a broad, wide beak, for cracking hard seeds. The cactus ground finch has a long, downcurved beak, for reaching down into the cactus flowers upon which it feeds. Other types of finch feed on insects, some remove ticks from tortoises, and one even pecks at seabirds and feeds on their blood! Each finch species has evolved according to its particular food source.
                              Evidence by example

                              Although the history of life is always in the past, there are many ways we can look at present-day organisms, as well as recent history, to better understand what has occurred through deep time. Artificial selection in agriculture or laboratories provides a model for natural selection. Looking at interactions of organisms in ecosystems helps us to understand how populations adapt over time. Experiments demonstrate selection and adaptive advantage. And we can see nested hierarchies in taxonomies based on common descent.

                              Artificial selection

                              Artificial selection provides a model that helps us understand natural selection.
                              People have been artificially selecting domesticated plants and animals for thousands of years. These activities have amounted to large, long-term, practical experiments that clearly demonstrate that species can change dramatically through selective breeding.

                              Broccoli and brussels sprouts bear little superficial resemblance to their wild mustard relatives (right).

                              If domesticated dogs were discovered today they would be classified as hundreds of different species and considered quite distinct from wolves. Although it is probable that various breeds of dogs were independently domesticated from distinct wild dog lineages, there are no wolf relatives anywhere in the world that look much like dachshunds or collies (below).




                              These observations demonstrate that selection has profound effects on populations and has the ability to modify forms and behaviors of living things to the point that they look and act very unlike their ancestors. Artificial selection provides a model that helps us understand natural selection. It is a small step to envision natural conditions acting selectively on populations and causing natural changes.

                              The environment affects the evolution of living things.
                              As predicted by evolutionary theory, populations evolve in response to their surroundings. In any ecosystem there are finite opportunities to make a living. Organisms either have the genetic tools to take advantage of those opportunities or they do not.

                              The environment affects the evolution of living things
                              House sparrows arrived in North America from Europe in the nineteenth century. Since then, genetic variation within the population, and selection in various habitats, have allowed them to inhabit most of the continent. House sparrows in the north are larger and darker colored than those in the south. Darker colors absorb sunlight better than light colors and larger size allows less surface area per unit volume, thus reducing heat loss — both advantages in a cold climate. This is an example of natural selection acting upon a population, producing micro-evolution on a continental scale.

                              Experiments also show that populations can evolve.
                              John Endler of the University of California has conducted experiments with the guppies of Trinidad that clearly show selection at work. The scenario: Female guppies prefer colorful males for mating purposes. Predatory fish also "prefer" colorful males, but for a less complimentary purpose — a source of food that is easy to spot. Some portions of the streams where guppies live have fewer predators than others and in these locations the males are more colorful (top frame). Not surprisingly, males in locations where there are more predators tend to be less colorful (bottom frame).

                              When Dr. Endler transferred predatory fish to the regions with brightly colored male guppies, selection acted rapidly to produce a population of duller males. This demonstrates that persistent variation within a population provides the raw material for rapid evolution when environmental conditions change.
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