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    Virtue is the manifestation of the way. The way is what
    virtue contains. Without the way, virtue would have no power.
    Without virtue, the way would have no appearance.
    Essence is like water, the body is its embankment, and
    virtue is its source. If the heart is not virtuous, or if there
    is no embankment, then the way 2 the source doesnt exisist.
    Know yourself!! to find your way!
    Proof

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  • #2
    well said.




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    • #3
      Re: Virtue12'

      Originally posted by BIG PROOF
      Virtue is the manifestation of the way. The way is what
      virtue contains. Without the way, virtue would have no power.
      Without virtue, the way would have no appearance.
      Essence is like water, the body is its embankment, and
      virtue is its source. If the heart is not virtuous, or if there
      is no embankment, then the way 2 the source doesnt exisist.
      Know yourself!! to find your way!
      Sure right brother, keep it coming!-Ellie
      Hi old school d12world!!

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      • #4
        Yes P,
        Very well said-
        But I have an honest question- a Disturbance if you will, not toyou P, but to everyone else that may read this thread...and comment-
        I was wondering this very much, I completly understand what Big P was saying, however to those that respond w/ -"hey I hear yaman " and " hey you tell it bro" ect....
        Do you really know what he was saying or trying to get threw?
        This is my simple point ( and I an not dogging anyone, plzz dont take it that way). I am saying do you look beyond the surface or do you really look w/in and form your own opinon on the matter and create your own "poetry"?
        Do you conform?
        Its not a bad thing- its very highly acceptable. But do you let loose w/ your own beliefs?
        This has nothing to do with Proofs philosophy of virtues, I like it, but what is yours?
        I have my own, I always have, but I am really curious to see what yall have to say about this.



        Hopefully someone knows what I am trying to get threw, but I am really curious on what others think about this topic.....
        -Jodi
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        U make me cumplete-
        U make me cumpletely miserable.
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        What He Knows Throws The Blows When He Goes To The Fight
        And He’ll Win The Whole Thing ‘Fore He Enters The Ring
        There’s No Body To Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might
        So When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand
        And Remember That Depth Is The Greatest Of Heights
        And If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where To Land
        And If You Fall It Won’t Matter, Cuz You’ll Know That You’re Right********************************************* **********
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        • #5
          I hear you Jodi. I understand. The question really is how do we really know what Proof is saying here. Virtue can be many things. It would be easy to assume that this is somehow a reference to virginity, but that is just a small thing in the big picture. What really is virtue?

          I too have my own ideas about what it takes to be virtous. I believe that it has a great deal to do with having principles and sticking to them. Finding what you believe in and standing up for it. It is being honest and forthright and couragous, even when you know that others will pressure you or question your decision. It is being true to yourself and your needs in the face of all opposition. It is not going with the crowd or caving in to popular ideas of how or what people should be. It is having kindness in your heart and goodwill to other people. I think there is generosity of spirit and charity and selflessness in that too.

          Okay, so now you know. And I do think Proof is right, finding virtue can be the way.

          T
          "I will go down with this ship
          And I won't put my hands up and surrender
          There will be no white flag above my door
          I'm in love and always will be "


          Dragonweed T"aka Miss Buttersuckel,the sexiest woman north of the Tennessee River

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nico313
            Yes P,
            Very well said-
            But I have an honest question- a Disturbance if you will, not toyou P, but to everyone else that may read this thread...and comment-
            I was wondering this very much, I completly understand what Big P was saying, however to those that respond w/ -"hey I hear yaman " and " hey you tell it bro" ect....
            Do you really know what he was saying or trying to get threw?
            This is my simple point ( and I an not dogging anyone, plzz dont take it that way). I am saying do you look beyond the surface or do you really look w/in and form your own opinon on the matter and create your own "poetry"?
            Do you conform?
            Its not a bad thing- its very highly acceptable. But do you let loose w/ your own beliefs?
            This has nothing to do with Proofs philosophy of virtues, I like it, but what is yours?
            I have my own, I always have, but I am really curious to see what yall have to say about this.



            Hopefully someone knows what I am trying to get threw, but I am really curious on what others think about this topic.....
            -Jodi
            I completely agree with u jodi when i replyin to proof's philosophy, i was just recognising what he said honestly-many people have different opinions-Ellie
            ps i see exactly what u are saying. You really think deeply girl, i admire the way that u give such appreciated advice to people and see the truth and meaning of thinsg underneath!
            Last edited by lil_els2000; 10-30-2001, 05:25 AM.
            Hi old school d12world!!

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            • #7
              i really dont understand what that means can someone explain what hat means, or is it one of those things u just have to get?
              if i had a dick i know u'd be riding it

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              • #8
                whassup wit da deep shit?!

                YEAH ITS ONE OF THOSE THINGS U HAVE TO GET. IT CAN MEAN ALOTA THINGS. WORD! BUT PROOF DAWG WHAT IS IT WIT THE DEEP SHIT LATELY? WHAT BRAND OF WEED R U ON? :D
                "IF I COULD CAPTURE THE RAGE OF TODAYS RAGE AND BOTTLE IT,
                CRUSH THE GLASS WIT MY BARE HAND AND SWOLLOW IT,
                AND SPIT IT BACK INTO THE FACES OF YOU RACISTS AND HYPOCRITS WHO THINK THE SAME SHIT BUT DON'T SAY SHIT!"-Eminem

                BIG HOLLER TO:
                Shadyvsbizkit (lol yeah ur ma homegurl!)
                lil_els
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                Dirty lil lady
                Sasha!!! (told u i'd add ya!)
                blue_devil
                Regina

                .........and anyone else i 4got hit me and i'll add ya!

                PEACE 2 ALL U DIRTY HEADS!

                ~SAZ~

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                • #9
                  err??????

                  Proof,quit watching Oprah,shit are you trying to fuck with my head,when did you become a philospher? I always thought you were brain dead?Anyway i know what your saying but why your saying it,i don't have a clue,u know what i'm saying?
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                  • #10
                    sounds good to me baby

                    i love it where u get that from proof its very true and deep //onelove urgirl
                    enjoy the beauty of the world dispite the danger ,look for the joyful and the peaceful in th face of the unknown.////////i like me a little danger

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                    • #11
                      yup very well sed prf....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wildflowerT
                        I hear you Jodi. I understand. The question really is how do we really know what Proof is saying here. Virtue can be many things. It would be easy to assume that this is somehow a reference to virginity, but that is just a small thing in the big picture. What really is virtue?

                        I too have my own ideas about what it takes to be virtous. I believe that it has a great deal to do with having principles and sticking to them. Finding what you believe in and standing up for it. It is being honest and forthright and couragous, even when you know that others will pressure you or question your decision. It is being true to yourself and your needs in the face of all opposition. It is not going with the crowd or caving in to popular ideas of how or what people should be. It is having kindness in your heart and goodwill to other people. I think there is generosity of spirit and charity and selflessness in that too.

                        Okay, so now you know. And I do think Proof is right, finding virtue can be the way.

                        T
                        Thank you, Terri

                        I didn't get it at all...
                        Thought it was some form of advance Americanism that was completly out of my reach so early in the morning...

                        O

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                        • #13
                          JUST AN IDEA

                          "PROOF'S PHILOSOPHY FO DIRTY NATION" book!
                          it'd b a bestseller!!! (n i bet Oprah would talk bout it too)

                          ...to give us summin intelligent to read when we down...
                          "If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off!"
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                          • #14
                            yes, well said, very deep

                            but....uh i didnt get it lol
                            hehe im stupid :D

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                            • #15
                              Essence is like water, the body is its embankment, and
                              virtue is its source. If the heart is not virtuous, or if there
                              is no embankment, then the way 2 the source doesnt exisist.
                              Know yourself!! to find your way!
                              I ain't found my way. I understand what Proof is trying to say, that following virtue is the right way to do things, and virtue and the way are one with another (if that made sense to anyone). But I guess since I don't know myself, and am just real depressed right know, I can't find virtue.

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