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Burke: Tell us about yourself.
Guylaine Lanctot: As a medical doctor, I practiced medicine for over 20 years in different countries. I went to different provinces in Canada, and I lived in the U.S. for 6 years. I got to know the medical system. I was questioning, "Why is everything so expensive? Why are we getting sicker and sicker and health care is getting more and more expensive, and everybody's unhappy?" I realized that different systems are totally alike. They have different names but, whether they are a capitalist system, like we have in the U.S., or socialized, like in France, or in between, like in Canada, the bottom line is that the medical systems are all alike. They all serve financiers and not the people. That's the basic thing. The bottom line is that the medical systems are controlled by financiers in order to serve financiers. Since you cannot serve people unless they get sick, the whole medical system is designed to make people sicker and sicker. When I realized this, I had the choice either to obey the medical authorities and keep my mouth shut or to obey my conscious and speak out. I made a decision to obey my conscious, knowing what the punishments were when one doesn't obey the system. So, I wrote the book The Medical Mafia: How to Get Out of It Alive and Take Back Our Health and Wealth. Now, the book is not a denunciation of medicine even though the title may lead you to think that. It's a book that explains how the system works. If we don't know how it works, we can't understand anything. It's so complicated, we think we're never going to understand it, so, we raise our arms and give up. The medical system is meant to be complicated. I decided to identify the real players, and I'll show the public where each player stands and how the game is played. This is the first part of my book, explaining how the system works. Next, what are we going to do? I'm a person who likes to come up with solutions, otherwise there is no point complaining. We need a solution.
Burke: So, what did you decide?
Guylaine Lanctot: If we are in the system, it's because we agree to it, consciously, or not. So what did we do to make this happen? Doctors want to help their patients and the patients want to be helped. How come it doesn't happen?
Burke: Excellent question!
Guylaine Lanctot: The reason is that, coming between the doctor and the patient there are intermediate people. There is the government taking the patient's rights and owning them and putting up the legislation about how medicine is going to be practiced and what's right or wrong. Then, there are the insurance companies taking the patient's money and deciding how this money is going to be returned to the doctors. So, patients and doctors don't have a relationship anymore. Patients and doctors have a relationship only through insurance companies and through the government. Why did we allow this to happen? That's the question. We allowed it to happen because we believe in two illusions. The first illusion is what we call protection. We think we need protection, but you cannot be protected. You can have all the protection you want. If the ceiling falls on your head, you die. So, protection does not exist. We don't trust ourselves; we don't trust the doctors. We think we need protection. So, we bought the idea that we need protection which can only be given by the external authorities. So, here they are. We're not good enough. We need someone to protect us. We gave our rights away to gain protection. However, external authorities will not protect us. Our second illusion is security. We need security. Security does not exist. We bought into this illusion and gave our money away in the name of security to insurance companies. So, here we are. No more power. No more control over our money and our rights.
Burke: How can we change this?
Guylaine Lanctot: Now that we know how we made this happen, we can change it. This is by becoming responsible. How are we going to change it? We are going to change the system by realizing that we are the only authority, and this authority is not outside. It is within us. Inside we are all-powerful. We do not need security; it doesn't exist. We don't need protection. Security and protection are created out of fear. And out of fear we remain in slavery. When we move out of fear, which is an illusion created from a lack of love, and then we switch to loving ourselves, we are free. Love means freedom. When I love myself this means I allow myself all the freedoms of thinking, saying and doing in my life. When I have unconditional love of myself, of doing whatever I want, thinking whatever I want, then I'm free. This is what freedom, in my opinion, is all about. So, we can run our own lives. We can be in charge of our own health. We can stop believing that we need external authorities, and realize that we are the authorities. We are all-powerful. We are divine in nature with no limit. Is God fearful? Does God buy insurance? If he did the insurance companies would certainly let us know!
Burke: Your concepts are certainly fascinating!
Guylaine Lanctot: Our problem is that we've forgotten who we are, you see, and we are behaving like sheep out of fear. Our health is directly related to our energy frequencies. All of what we are talking about is frequency, and higher consciousness. The more conscious we are of who we are, which is a part of the Creator, or god/goddess, the better our health will be!
Burke: So, you're a doctor in the medical profession, and you started to make objections?
Guylaine Lanctot: I never made objections. Very few. In my field, my colleagues wanted me to get into technology, and I said no. I always practiced personal medicine. I worked in the field of phlebology, which is the treatment of varicose veins. I developed a whole program and I was internationally renowned for what I did, and I always worked with my hands. My colleagues started telling me that a machine would do a better diagnosis for me. I said no. I refused this machine, which was very expensive. If you buy a machine for $100,000, someone has to pay for that. So, the patient has to pay for something I don't need, to help him or her. This is when I started speaking out. It lasted over a period of ten years as I grew to understand what was going on and how the medical system worked. At the same time I was in an exploration for myself also.
Burke: Were you exploring spirituality at this time?
Guylaine Lanctot: I started realizing that there was something more than the physical body. I realized that emotions had something to do with disease. Then, I heard about psychosomatic medicine. I said, "I want to know more about this." So, I started going outside of mainstream medicine and looking for what was available. That was the early '80's. Some of my friends would talk to me about energy, and chakras and prana, and karma. I said, "What the heck is that?" I had no idea what they meant, but I had an open mind. So, I will make my own judgment and discernment about these things. I went all over the world, as far as Siberia, meeting people who did things in the field of alternative medicine. I realized that they were not quacks. I could go anywhere and nothing was hidden from me. Patients were not considered quacks either. It worked very well. I saw better results than what we got in normal medicine, and it was cheaper. I had never heard about these things as a physician. I was told that everything outside of medicine was all quackery. These types of alternative treatments were denied by medicine, and these innovative health professionals were harassed and persecuted, while doing something that helped to bring treatment costs down. There was something definitely wrong here. Something didn't make sense for me. So, my search was an eye-widening experience!
Burke: Your exploration lasted for ten years?
Guylaine Lanctot: Yes. During this time I realized what the system was and how it worked. But, my question was, "What are we going to do?" In my book, I've described the levels of medicine. There is conventional medicine, which treats the visible physical body only. Then, you have alternative medicine, which treats the invisible body, the emotional and mental bodies. In my experience, conventional medicine is destructive. Alternative medicine will improve your health but will not solve the problem. Self-healing, which is healing at the level of the soul, is where the healing takes place, because disease starts here.
Burke: Can you speak more about the soul in relation to healing?
Guylaine Lanctot: Well, how does the soul get sick? What's the disease of the soul? I believe it is due to submission, expecting love to come from outside, from external authorities. We're giving others the power to make us happy. Hypothetically, if my mom doesn't like me, I'm sad and I get sick. Whereas, if I realize that I am the only authority, that love is within me, that I am pure, divine, unlimited love, then I don't need other people's approval to do what I want to do in my life. I'll just listen to my inner voice, and do what my inner voice tells me to do. This is what I call in the book "sovereignty." So, the illness of the soul is submission, and the wellness or healing of the soul is sovereignty, individual sovereignty. Now, we've always been led to believe that sovereignty exists for a country or for a kind or queen.
Burke: Yes.
Guylaine Lanctot: Well, it's a major leap in consciousness to realize that there's no such thing. For instance, if you think about a country, a country is limited. A kind or queen is limited. Whereas sovereignty has no limit. Therefore, a country cannot be sovereign. Only a Divine entity, only God, the Creator, is sovereign; and only God within us, our inner god/goddess, can be sovereign. So, we are the Creator living in our bodies; so we are divine. Since we are immortal and divine individuals we do not need to die. Why do we die? We believe death is going to happen so we make it happen. If we make death happen we can make immortality happen. If we make suffering happen we can make joy happen for us and the society we are living in. We are creators by nature. We can create everything we want. We can create a terrible future or a fantastic one. We've got the option. Why were we never told that? For centuries all of the authorities, especially the religious ones, have taught us that God is outside. God makes the rules and God, although he is pure love, will punish us if we don't do this or that. Is this possible? I believe it is impossible! When people realize they are god/goddess, that God lives within them, you cannot dominate or exploit them anymore! People can only be kept in slavery if you make them believe they are sheep and need someone to obey other than themselves. The moment people realize they are their only authority and obey their conscious, the outside authorities no longer have control over them!
Burke: Tell us more of your personal story dealing with the authorities, if you will.
Guylaine Lanctot: Okay. I had the choice to either obey the external authorities and keep my mouth shut or obey my inner authority, which is my conscious, and speak out, which I did. So, I launched the book; then, the external authorities asked me to resign.
Burke: Based on what reason?
Guylaine Lanctot: The authorities make laws the way they want to. We have to realize that all legality is man-made law.
Burke: But you didn't do anything that was breaking the law.
Guylaine Lanctot: Well, yes. Their law says that a doctor speaking in public can only say what mainstream medicine recognizes.
Burke: We didn't know that.
Guylaine Lanctot: You don't hear this. People don't know this medical establishment rule. Doctors are not allowed to give alternative information to their patients.
Burke: In what countries?
Guylaine Lanctot: It's the same all over. It's a way to keep doctors in line.
Burke: There are doctors who practice alternative health in the U.S. and who also talk about these things. We've personally heard them.
Guylaine Lanctot: And they have many problems, including being harassed and persecuted. A doctor came to me right after a conference I gave. He said, "I've been persecuted. I had my license suspended and I'm under surveillance for five years."
Burke: So, at a whim, the medical boards can remove your license?
Guylaine Lanctot: They make the laws they want. They do their tricks.
Burke: Tell us what happened to you?
Guylaine Lanctot: The medical board asked me to resign and I said no. I said, "I'm not going to resign because you pretend that you protect the public, and I don't see how I am going against your rules by giving the public true information. I am protecting the public also, by informing them. Why would I resign?" I told them that if they would say publicly that they protect financiers' interests that I would resign immediately! I told them that I didn't want to be part of their organization anyhow. So, of course, they never would do what I asked them to do. They only said, "If you don't resign, we will take your license away. We will have you in a trial before the disciplinary committee and we will revoke your license." I said, "Fine," so I went to court. What I did is different than what doctors usually do, which is defend themselves. I didn't defend myself. You see, defense is attempting to prove to the other side that you're right. The medical board couldn't care less if I was right. They wanted my license. They wanted me to resign!
Burke: So, what happened?
Guylaine Lanctot: I didn't try to prove anything to them. I only went into court and used it as a platform. I didn't have a lawyer, so I could do anything I wanted to.
Burke: Was this in a regular courtroom, a private hearing, or what?
Guylaine Lanctot: No. It was a court, open to the public. It was a court in a medical building. There were three judges---a lawyer as a judge, plus to doctors; then there was the lawyer of the medical board, the doctors suing me, and finally me. It was the biggest joke. It lasted fifteen days over a year. I think they'll never forget it.
Burke: So the public knows about it. What kinds of things happened?
Guylaine Lanctot: As a medical doctor, I practiced medicine for over 20 years in different countries. I went to different provinces in Canada, and I lived in the U.S. for 6 years. I got to know the medical system. I was questioning, "Why is everything so expensive? Why are we getting sicker and sicker and health care is getting more and more expensive, and everybody's unhappy?" I realized that different systems are totally alike. They have different names but, whether they are a capitalist system, like we have in the U.S., or socialized, like in France, or in between, like in Canada, the bottom line is that the medical systems are all alike. They all serve financiers and not the people. That's the basic thing. The bottom line is that the medical systems are controlled by financiers in order to serve financiers. Since you cannot serve people unless they get sick, the whole medical system is designed to make people sicker and sicker. When I realized this, I had the choice either to obey the medical authorities and keep my mouth shut or to obey my conscious and speak out. I made a decision to obey my conscious, knowing what the punishments were when one doesn't obey the system. So, I wrote the book The Medical Mafia: How to Get Out of It Alive and Take Back Our Health and Wealth. Now, the book is not a denunciation of medicine even though the title may lead you to think that. It's a book that explains how the system works. If we don't know how it works, we can't understand anything. It's so complicated, we think we're never going to understand it, so, we raise our arms and give up. The medical system is meant to be complicated. I decided to identify the real players, and I'll show the public where each player stands and how the game is played. This is the first part of my book, explaining how the system works. Next, what are we going to do? I'm a person who likes to come up with solutions, otherwise there is no point complaining. We need a solution.
Burke: So, what did you decide?
Guylaine Lanctot: If we are in the system, it's because we agree to it, consciously, or not. So what did we do to make this happen? Doctors want to help their patients and the patients want to be helped. How come it doesn't happen?
Burke: Excellent question!
Guylaine Lanctot: The reason is that, coming between the doctor and the patient there are intermediate people. There is the government taking the patient's rights and owning them and putting up the legislation about how medicine is going to be practiced and what's right or wrong. Then, there are the insurance companies taking the patient's money and deciding how this money is going to be returned to the doctors. So, patients and doctors don't have a relationship anymore. Patients and doctors have a relationship only through insurance companies and through the government. Why did we allow this to happen? That's the question. We allowed it to happen because we believe in two illusions. The first illusion is what we call protection. We think we need protection, but you cannot be protected. You can have all the protection you want. If the ceiling falls on your head, you die. So, protection does not exist. We don't trust ourselves; we don't trust the doctors. We think we need protection. So, we bought the idea that we need protection which can only be given by the external authorities. So, here they are. We're not good enough. We need someone to protect us. We gave our rights away to gain protection. However, external authorities will not protect us. Our second illusion is security. We need security. Security does not exist. We bought into this illusion and gave our money away in the name of security to insurance companies. So, here we are. No more power. No more control over our money and our rights.
Burke: How can we change this?
Guylaine Lanctot: Now that we know how we made this happen, we can change it. This is by becoming responsible. How are we going to change it? We are going to change the system by realizing that we are the only authority, and this authority is not outside. It is within us. Inside we are all-powerful. We do not need security; it doesn't exist. We don't need protection. Security and protection are created out of fear. And out of fear we remain in slavery. When we move out of fear, which is an illusion created from a lack of love, and then we switch to loving ourselves, we are free. Love means freedom. When I love myself this means I allow myself all the freedoms of thinking, saying and doing in my life. When I have unconditional love of myself, of doing whatever I want, thinking whatever I want, then I'm free. This is what freedom, in my opinion, is all about. So, we can run our own lives. We can be in charge of our own health. We can stop believing that we need external authorities, and realize that we are the authorities. We are all-powerful. We are divine in nature with no limit. Is God fearful? Does God buy insurance? If he did the insurance companies would certainly let us know!
Burke: Your concepts are certainly fascinating!
Guylaine Lanctot: Our problem is that we've forgotten who we are, you see, and we are behaving like sheep out of fear. Our health is directly related to our energy frequencies. All of what we are talking about is frequency, and higher consciousness. The more conscious we are of who we are, which is a part of the Creator, or god/goddess, the better our health will be!
Burke: So, you're a doctor in the medical profession, and you started to make objections?
Guylaine Lanctot: I never made objections. Very few. In my field, my colleagues wanted me to get into technology, and I said no. I always practiced personal medicine. I worked in the field of phlebology, which is the treatment of varicose veins. I developed a whole program and I was internationally renowned for what I did, and I always worked with my hands. My colleagues started telling me that a machine would do a better diagnosis for me. I said no. I refused this machine, which was very expensive. If you buy a machine for $100,000, someone has to pay for that. So, the patient has to pay for something I don't need, to help him or her. This is when I started speaking out. It lasted over a period of ten years as I grew to understand what was going on and how the medical system worked. At the same time I was in an exploration for myself also.
Burke: Were you exploring spirituality at this time?
Guylaine Lanctot: I started realizing that there was something more than the physical body. I realized that emotions had something to do with disease. Then, I heard about psychosomatic medicine. I said, "I want to know more about this." So, I started going outside of mainstream medicine and looking for what was available. That was the early '80's. Some of my friends would talk to me about energy, and chakras and prana, and karma. I said, "What the heck is that?" I had no idea what they meant, but I had an open mind. So, I will make my own judgment and discernment about these things. I went all over the world, as far as Siberia, meeting people who did things in the field of alternative medicine. I realized that they were not quacks. I could go anywhere and nothing was hidden from me. Patients were not considered quacks either. It worked very well. I saw better results than what we got in normal medicine, and it was cheaper. I had never heard about these things as a physician. I was told that everything outside of medicine was all quackery. These types of alternative treatments were denied by medicine, and these innovative health professionals were harassed and persecuted, while doing something that helped to bring treatment costs down. There was something definitely wrong here. Something didn't make sense for me. So, my search was an eye-widening experience!
Burke: Your exploration lasted for ten years?
Guylaine Lanctot: Yes. During this time I realized what the system was and how it worked. But, my question was, "What are we going to do?" In my book, I've described the levels of medicine. There is conventional medicine, which treats the visible physical body only. Then, you have alternative medicine, which treats the invisible body, the emotional and mental bodies. In my experience, conventional medicine is destructive. Alternative medicine will improve your health but will not solve the problem. Self-healing, which is healing at the level of the soul, is where the healing takes place, because disease starts here.
Burke: Can you speak more about the soul in relation to healing?
Guylaine Lanctot: Well, how does the soul get sick? What's the disease of the soul? I believe it is due to submission, expecting love to come from outside, from external authorities. We're giving others the power to make us happy. Hypothetically, if my mom doesn't like me, I'm sad and I get sick. Whereas, if I realize that I am the only authority, that love is within me, that I am pure, divine, unlimited love, then I don't need other people's approval to do what I want to do in my life. I'll just listen to my inner voice, and do what my inner voice tells me to do. This is what I call in the book "sovereignty." So, the illness of the soul is submission, and the wellness or healing of the soul is sovereignty, individual sovereignty. Now, we've always been led to believe that sovereignty exists for a country or for a kind or queen.
Burke: Yes.
Guylaine Lanctot: Well, it's a major leap in consciousness to realize that there's no such thing. For instance, if you think about a country, a country is limited. A kind or queen is limited. Whereas sovereignty has no limit. Therefore, a country cannot be sovereign. Only a Divine entity, only God, the Creator, is sovereign; and only God within us, our inner god/goddess, can be sovereign. So, we are the Creator living in our bodies; so we are divine. Since we are immortal and divine individuals we do not need to die. Why do we die? We believe death is going to happen so we make it happen. If we make death happen we can make immortality happen. If we make suffering happen we can make joy happen for us and the society we are living in. We are creators by nature. We can create everything we want. We can create a terrible future or a fantastic one. We've got the option. Why were we never told that? For centuries all of the authorities, especially the religious ones, have taught us that God is outside. God makes the rules and God, although he is pure love, will punish us if we don't do this or that. Is this possible? I believe it is impossible! When people realize they are god/goddess, that God lives within them, you cannot dominate or exploit them anymore! People can only be kept in slavery if you make them believe they are sheep and need someone to obey other than themselves. The moment people realize they are their only authority and obey their conscious, the outside authorities no longer have control over them!
Burke: Tell us more of your personal story dealing with the authorities, if you will.
Guylaine Lanctot: Okay. I had the choice to either obey the external authorities and keep my mouth shut or obey my inner authority, which is my conscious, and speak out, which I did. So, I launched the book; then, the external authorities asked me to resign.
Burke: Based on what reason?
Guylaine Lanctot: The authorities make laws the way they want to. We have to realize that all legality is man-made law.
Burke: But you didn't do anything that was breaking the law.
Guylaine Lanctot: Well, yes. Their law says that a doctor speaking in public can only say what mainstream medicine recognizes.
Burke: We didn't know that.
Guylaine Lanctot: You don't hear this. People don't know this medical establishment rule. Doctors are not allowed to give alternative information to their patients.
Burke: In what countries?
Guylaine Lanctot: It's the same all over. It's a way to keep doctors in line.
Burke: There are doctors who practice alternative health in the U.S. and who also talk about these things. We've personally heard them.
Guylaine Lanctot: And they have many problems, including being harassed and persecuted. A doctor came to me right after a conference I gave. He said, "I've been persecuted. I had my license suspended and I'm under surveillance for five years."
Burke: So, at a whim, the medical boards can remove your license?
Guylaine Lanctot: They make the laws they want. They do their tricks.
Burke: Tell us what happened to you?
Guylaine Lanctot: The medical board asked me to resign and I said no. I said, "I'm not going to resign because you pretend that you protect the public, and I don't see how I am going against your rules by giving the public true information. I am protecting the public also, by informing them. Why would I resign?" I told them that if they would say publicly that they protect financiers' interests that I would resign immediately! I told them that I didn't want to be part of their organization anyhow. So, of course, they never would do what I asked them to do. They only said, "If you don't resign, we will take your license away. We will have you in a trial before the disciplinary committee and we will revoke your license." I said, "Fine," so I went to court. What I did is different than what doctors usually do, which is defend themselves. I didn't defend myself. You see, defense is attempting to prove to the other side that you're right. The medical board couldn't care less if I was right. They wanted my license. They wanted me to resign!
Burke: So, what happened?
Guylaine Lanctot: I didn't try to prove anything to them. I only went into court and used it as a platform. I didn't have a lawyer, so I could do anything I wanted to.
Burke: Was this in a regular courtroom, a private hearing, or what?
Guylaine Lanctot: No. It was a court, open to the public. It was a court in a medical building. There were three judges---a lawyer as a judge, plus to doctors; then there was the lawyer of the medical board, the doctors suing me, and finally me. It was the biggest joke. It lasted fifteen days over a year. I think they'll never forget it.
Burke: So the public knows about it. What kinds of things happened?
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