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    I thought this was kinda interesting..

    France II
    By Lowell Ponte
    April 16, 2003


    PONTEFICATIONS

    VOTERS IN QUEBEC REJECTED SECESSION from Canada this week by handing a big loss to the once-mighty pro-secessionist party. News stories reaching America made this sound like a huge defeat for millions of French-speaking, French-thinking activists in La Belle Province, geographically larger than the France from which their ancestors came to settle Nouvelle France, New France, centuries ago.

    Americans need to look north and pay attention. What has happened recently in Canada could have a huge impact on us.

    England bested France in wars of the early 1700s, and Canada became an English nation with one predominately French province. But as a gesture of tolerance and good will, its English governors declared Canada a bilingual nation and culture.

    This Balkanization policy in our time has evolved to require all government documents to be in both French and English, even thousands of miles west in Vancouver and Edmonton where nobody speaks French. Signs in English, meanwhile, are torn down by Franco-Canadians in Montreal. We grew up hearing its cri de coeur in that song about "two rivers in the land" by Canadian folksingers Ian & Sylvia – before they got divorced.

    Americans should pay urgent attention. We need to understand that this week’s vote in Quebec was not a defeat for the Franco-nationalists. It was their way of saying that secession no longer needs to be contemplated – and henceforth will never be permitted.

    The Franco-Canadians, three centuries after their defeat, have at last won. They have conquered their conquerors. Canada’s Leftist Prime Minister Jean Chretien shares the culture, tongue, and anti-American political views of French President Jacques Chirac – both of whom, with typically French modesty, think it no accident that their initials J.C. are also those of Jesus Christ.

    The nation north of the United States is no longer Canada. It has become France II, Nouvelle France, a cultural and political clone of the nation that behaved as America’s enemy in trying to undermine our efforts to de-fang an Iraqi regime busy acquiring weapons of mass destruction.

    The secessionists emerging in France II are no longer Quebeckers. They are the English-speaking Canadian cowboys, oilers, farmers, fisherfolk, and loggers of the far western provinces of British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and the Yukon whose resources and high taxes are being siphoned eastward to subsidize Quebec even more than Ottawa.

    Now that France II has replaced Canada, Quebec no longer has any reason to secede from Canada. Quebec and its values now rule all of Canada.

    It is no coincidence that France II has been rushing to disarm the citizens of its western colonies and the Maritimes with draconian national gun control. Those cowboy colonies, from Saskatchewan westward, in particular, are the source of France II’s wealth and power.

    The English-speaking peasants of Canada’s west, whose language and values have much more in common with George Bush and the United States than with Jean Chretien and France II, will not be permitted to secede.

    These westerners soon might not even be permitted to put on their license plates the slogan that during the secession movement there replaced La Belle Province on the cars of Quebec – Je me souviens, "I remember."

    The United States and Canada long celebrated sharing "the longest unguarded border" between any two nations on Earth, so friendly were our relations. In the wake of September 11, 2001, however, Americans have seen terrorists cross that border – and to discover that people flying into Canada without passports from the Middle East (and elsewhere) have simply been allowed to stay and run free.

    Most Americans have been astonished that Canadian Prime Minister Chretien refused to join Great Britain and ourselves in coalition against Saddam Hussein. We have been shocked by Mr. Chretien’s opposition to regime change in Iraq. We have been horrified by his direct order to Canada’s navy not to seize or detain members of Saddam’s regime trying to flee the Middle East – or, we presume, trying to enter Canada – and not to turn them over to Coalition forces. This last action, said U.S. Ambassador to Canada Paul Cellucci, was "incomprehensible."

    Americans were pained to discover that the President of our historic ally France, Jacques Chirac, had taken campaign money from and sold weapons illegally to Saddam Hussein. We were appalled that Chirac sided with Saddam and against us merely because France stood to lose billions of dollars in business with the Iraq dictator. But at least his treachery against the United States and Iraqi people had a reason and purpose, however ignoble.

    But what possible reason, ask most Americans, could cause our next door neighbor and closest trading partner Canada to stab us in the back? To side with France and Saddam Hussein against us? To cozy up to Fidel Castro (even though Chretien’s and Castro’s socialist politics are not all that different)? To boo and curse America’s national anthem at Canadian sporting events? To have members of Canada’s cabinet say vile things about the United States and its President – and then go unfired and unpunished by its Prime Minister?

    A few of us, however, know that Jean Chretien is a grandfather. Canadian oil tycoon and mega-billionaire Paul Desmarais, coincidentally, is also grandfather to the same grandchildren – his son Andre being married to Chretien’s daughter, whose very name is France.

    One of the French oil companies that had been closest to Saddam Hussein is Paris-based TotalFinaElf. Its biggest shareholder is the same Paul Desmarais, and his son Paul Jr., brother of Chretien’s son-in-law Andre, sits on Total’s Board of Directors.

    TotalFinaElf, incidently, recently and quietly moved to buy up a large share of a major oilsands project in the Canadian province of Alberta, which evidence suggests may be home to one of the world’s two biggest relatively-untapped oil reserves. This gives both Montreal and France a Saddam-like interest in making sure Alberta can never secede to become either part of a new independent nation or a new state of the United States.

    "It’s all about oil," the anti-war protestors told us. Apparently they were right, writes Canadian journalist Mark Steyn, at least where Canada is concerned.

    Jean Chretien has followed an anti-American, pro-Saddam Hussein policy that may be bad for Canada, but his family stood to make many, many, many millions of dollars if Hussein could by hook or crook be kept in power. To paraphrase its beautiful national anthem, Oh Canada, Jean prefers greed to thee.

    If Chretien seems greasy, it apparently is because his family fortune rises or falls by floating on the oil of Saddam’s Iraq and other undemocratic Middle Eastern nations.

    The Desmarais family has other links worth noting. Andre has held a proud place on the board of multinational communications behemoth Vivendi. And he runs Power Corporation, whose annual revenues typically top $18 billion (Canadian dollars). For a disturbing, if Leftist, depiction of how the Desmarais family manipulates the national media as well as all major political parties in Canada, check out University of Windsor Professor James Winter’s provocative book Democracy’s Oxygen: How the Corporations Control the News.

    Andre also sits on the board of the Peoples’ Republic of China’s China International Trust and Investment Corporation (CITIC), reportedly described by some as "the investment arm of the Chinese military." Canada’s version of the CIA, the CSIS, reportedly through its "Project Sidewinder" tried to investigate how this and Chretien’s frequent trade missions to China might reflect undue Chinese communist influence on Canadian politicians.

    In the dawning light of the 9-11 world, we see change. Old enemies in Eastern Europe and elsewhere have become friends and allies. Old friends such as France at this moment look more and more like enemies, bent on undercutting "the American hegemon" to make themselves feel and appear taller. Canada has become closer to France and China, and moved farther from its traditional friendship with the United States.

    Is it any wonder that President Bush postponed a scheduled May 5 visit to Canada, or that Canada fears it has quietly been cut out of postwar contracts in Iraq?

    Canada, our longtime friend and neighbor, has either been taken over by a body-snatcher or demon-possessed by an anti-American spirit that prefers to speak and think like Jacques Chirac. Time may exorcise this demon through regime change. If not, we should be willing to liberate the pro-Western westerners of Canada by offering statehood and friendship to the peoples of British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and the diamond-rich, oil-rich lands of the old Yukon Territory.

    If our northern border is to front no longer on Canada but instead on France II, at that border we will indeed need to stand on guard. It would help to make that border much, much shorter.
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    “if somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 52, no. 260).

  • #2
    Just a question Triumph. Are you all for a possible attack on Syria too?
    Your signature can not be longer than 200 characters.
    ^this is stupid .

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    • #3
      Originally posted by trekei
      Just a question Triumph. Are you all for a possible attack on Syria too?
      Haven't really thought of it, but it has been known for years that the Syrians are testing various chemical and biological agents, they do harbour terrorists and are on the U.S. State Departments list of Terrorist States. But, I feel that the Syrian leadership is a lot more susceptible to reform then Saddam Hussein was, considering they have been cooperative (to a point) in the past. I doubt in their case that an attack would be necessary, economic sanctions on the other hand, would be able to get the desired results.

      On a side not Trekei: What do you think of Mcdonald's new chicken fajita's? I seem to be the only person here who likes them
      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

      “if somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 52, no. 260).

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      • #4
        "Prime Minister John Howard wants to reform the United Nations, saying the presence of France as a permanent member of the Security Council "distorts" the council."

        ChIrak has screwed you good.
        AS the Baghdad regime's officials fled, leaving behind terrorists and thugs as a rear guard, a trio of Saddam's dismayed defenders met in Moscow. French President Jacques Chirac, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Russian President Vladimir Putin - the axis of non-nein-nyet - discussed their powerlessness to save a favored dictator.

        Ah, could we but overhear the curses those three hurled our way in their anger and their impotence.

        But don't expect this trio to continue to sing in harmony. Resembling the Arab street in their determination to blame the United States for home-made ills, Chirac and Schroeder have no meaningful futures. Putin is another sort entirely, colder and more wary of empty gestures.

        We will find ways to work with Moscow, although our mutual embrace will not be particularly warm. Putin is clever enough to know a losing hand when events have forced one upon him. He would like to restrain the United States, but he will never sacrifice his country's interests to those of France or Germany.

        Gerhard Schroeder doesn't even matter. The only politician in the West who can make Bill Clinton seem a model of integrity and courage, the German chancellor leads a feckless nation of moral incompetents. We will mend our ******d relationship with Berlin, but, on the level that matters, we've said auf Wiedersehen to Lili Marlene.

        The farewell was overdue.

        Our troops will leave Germany across the coming decade, as the German welfare state continues to fare less and less well. We will continue to trade goods, but will never again trade diplomatic intimacies. We will shake hands in public, but our private relationship has been permanently shaken.

        This is a positive development, further liberating the United States from its thrall to continental Europe. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was exactly right to dismiss "Old Europe" as much diminished in relevance. When next the Germans and French tug at the sleeves of our policymakers, we are likely to brush them off - not without a measure of satisfaction.

        The changed relationship with France matters most. Chirac, abetted by his sorcerer's apprentice, Foreign Minister Dominque de Villepin, has done his country's status nothing but harm through "l'affaire Iraq." Grotesquely overestimating France's influence and authority, Chirac garnered an empty round of applause with his self-adoring performance in support of a heinous dictator.

        But the end effect was to bring Charles de Gaulle's inflated legacy to a sputtering end. Since the close of the Second World War, France had been permitted a louder voice than its stature merited. That era is over, murdered by Chirac. While calling President Bush a shoot-from-the-hip cowboy, Chirac shot his own country in the back.

        France defied the United States, not wisely but too well. Chirac's foreign minister went out of his way to humiliate Colin Powell, the Bush Cabinet's most congenial member from a European perspective. But the astonishing thing is that Chirac genuinely seems to have believed that France could force a bit into Washington's mouth, then jerk the reins.

        Well, France fell off the horse before the race got underway.

        There will be handshakes with Paris, too, and hollow hugs and kisses. But France will never again be allowed even the illusion of a voice in shaping American policy. Chirac has thrown away the last rags of influence France could wear to the diplomatic ball.

        Consider the situation in which France has been left by this very expensive outburst of Gallic vanity:

        * France's lack of influence has been revealed to a humiliating degree.

        * France has an aging population, a troubled economy and a hamstrung government paralyzed by a culture of entitlement. It is creaking toward irrelevance, while the United States surges ahead.

        * France's shrunken military is closer in organization and capabilities to a World War II force than to America's armed forces; the French cannot even manage civil strife in Ivory Coast.

        * France's elite - a fake aristocracy of bourgeois intellectuals - has no vision for the future, only a crippling nostalgia for the past.

        * France has the most ferociously racist society in Europe - with rapidly expanding Arab and ethnic African populations unable to integrate. The coming explosions will make America's race riots of the 1960s look like a series of cotillions.

        Still, fairness is an American, if not a French, trait. After all the wartime jokes have been told, the truth is that the French people are not to blame for the current state of affairs. They're really OK - honest - and they do cook damnably well.

        The problem lies in the government bureaucracy and its supporting cadre of Parisian intellectuals. France is far from a meritocracy in the American vein. Rather, the ruling and chattering classes in France are inbred even by European standards. They go to the same small number of schools and universities, cherish the same tenured, state-funded positions, and live in the same Parisian neighborhoods. And they hate with far greater facility than they create.

        These are the small men and women who cannot bear France's diminished role in the world, who lash out at America for championing the average citizen's right to opportunity (egalité - equality - only goes so far on the Left Bank), and who dream loftily of changing the world when they cannot even change the political prejudices they have held for half a century.

        Now they and their champions, Chirac and de Villepin, have gotten a brutal comeuppance. France has lost authority, credibility and influence in 2003 almost as swiftly as the French lost their country in 1940. The paradox is that, in the long term, this humiliation of the Parisian elite may be a good thing for the common people of France despised by the ruling class.

        In the meantime, "Au revoir, chere Marianne. Hope you didn't catch a chill in Moscow."

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        • #5
          Sorry, I just read your sig and remember this, which I read on some website....


          But sadly this anti-war idiocy hasn’t been confined to the Rock ‘n’ Roll community. Recently, rapper Jay-Z, MC du Jour and head of Roc-A-Fella records, contributed a verse to the remix of European artist Panjabi MC's overseas hit "Beware of the Boys." Rhyming over the theme from Knight Rider, Jigga drops the following: We rebellious, we back home/ Screamin' 'Leave Iraq alone’. For all my soldiers in the field/ I will wish you safe return/ But only love kills war/ When will they learn?" It’s tough to know where to start with my criticism of Jay-Z. The situation is almost surreal. We have an ex-crack dealer, whose lyrics consistently make reference to street violence and murder, suddenly jumping on the anti-war celebrity bandwagon. I have no idea why Jigga man is suddenly so concerned with parroting the celebrity line on Iraq. The only plausible theory for the Jigga’s sudden anti-war activism is that since he is preparing to enter the motion picture industry, the world’s most fearless MC’s decision to parrot the Hollywood line is purely a business decision. So much for street cred HoVa.
          http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

          “if somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 52, no. 260).

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          • #6
            lol I like them occasionally. Loved them when I was younger
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            ^this is stupid .

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            • #7
              thats that dude opinion I guess but there is always someone out there that is going to say something . Oh well .. btw I gave a shout out to you two .
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              i thought we were in the news forum cause of the politics lol
              Your signature can not be longer than 200 characters.
              ^this is stupid .

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              • #8
                France, Germany, Russia, Belgium and Canada are not on the side of peace or morality or the Iraqi people. The pictures from the streets of Baghdad make that plain. But we are on the side of TotalFinaElf. Twice in recent columns, Diane Francis has mentioned, almost en passant, a curious little fact:

                The Western oil company with the closest ties to the late Saddam is France's TotalFinaElf. That's not the curious fact, that's just business as usual in the Fifth Republic. This is the curious fact: As Diane wrote in February and again last week, "Total's biggest shareholder is Montreal's Paul Desmarais, whose youngest son is married to Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's daughter."

                Let's see if I've got this straight: TotalFinaElf's largest shareholder is a subsidiary of Montreal's Power Corp, whose co-chief executive is Jean Chrétien's son-in-law, Andre Desmarais. Mr. Desmarais' brother, Paul Desmarais Jr., sits on the Total board.

                For months, the anti-war crowd has insisted that "it's all about oil," that the only reason the Iraqi people were being "liberated" was so that the second biggest oil reserves in the world could be annexed in perpetuity by ##### Cheney and Halliburton and the rest of Bush's Texas oilpatch gang. Instead, it turns out that, if it is all about oil, then the principal North American beneficiary of the continued enslavement of the Iraqi people is the family of the Canadian Prime Minister -- that's to say, his daughter, France Chrétien, and his grandchildren.

                What a delightful footnote to the Chrétien-Chiraquiste war effort. This is a victory not just for the Iraqi people but for "Anglo-Saxon" reality over Franco-Canadian postmodern cynicism.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Triumph
                  Sorry, I just read your sig and remember this, which I read on some website....


                  But sadly this anti-war idiocy hasn’t been confined to the Rock ‘n’ Roll community. Recently, rapper Jay-Z, MC du Jour and head of Roc-A-Fella records, contributed a verse to the remix of European artist Panjabi MC's overseas hit "Beware of the Boys." Rhyming over the theme from Knight Rider, Jigga drops the following: We rebellious, we back home/ Screamin' 'Leave Iraq alone’. For all my soldiers in the field/ I will wish you safe return/ But only love kills war/ When will they learn?" It’s tough to know where to start with my criticism of Jay-Z. The situation is almost surreal. We have an ex-crack dealer, whose lyrics consistently make reference to street violence and murder, suddenly jumping on the anti-war celebrity bandwagon. I have no idea why Jigga man is suddenly so concerned with parroting the celebrity line on Iraq. The only plausible theory for the Jigga’s sudden anti-war activism is that since he is preparing to enter the motion picture industry, the world’s most fearless MC’s decision to parrot the Hollywood line is purely a business decision. So much for street cred HoVa.

                  The only reason he said this is probably because he knew that innocent lives were gonna be taken away. But it's too late, they already have.
                  WOOOORD FAM

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Triumph
                    Haven't really thought of it, but it has been known for years that the Syrians are testing various chemical and biological agents, they do harbour terrorists and are on the U.S. State Departments list of Terrorist States. But, I feel that the Syrian leadership is a lot more susceptible to reform then Saddam Hussein was, considering they have been cooperative (to a point) in the past. I doubt in their case that an attack would be necessary, economic sanctions on the other hand, would be able to get the desired results.

                    On a side not Trekei: What do you think of Mcdonald's new chicken fajita's? I seem to be the only person here who likes them
                    Hate to do this to you yet again.

                    If Syria harbours terrorists as you say, I want you to answer me one question.

                    Why did the Bush Administration commend them on their efforts in the war against terrorism on routing out Al-Queda fighters months back?
                    Why did Colin Powel go as far as to say that Syria's anti-terrorism efforts "probably saved American lives" ?

                    Doesnt sound like a terrorist haven to me. Now, the U.S. doesnt seem to think that Saudi Arabia or Pakistan are terrorist hotbeds.

                    Why did like 14 of the hijcakers come from Saudi Arabia?
                    Why is bin Laden so fucking rich? His family was closely tied to the Saudi Royal family.
                    Syria has a president, Kuwait has a dictator.
                    Many Islamic terrorist attacks on India have been proven to have originated from Pakistan.


                    Canada is far from France II. I hate Quebec with a passion as well, because they just whine whine whine. And btw, that thign that your surprisingly ill-informed diplomat Celucci said, about Canada not handing detainees from the ships over, is because it is not required. By law, they dont need to be handed over, and usually are not. They are handing them to Iraqi authority, or in some instances detaining them themselves. Whats baffling is how this guy makes a big deal out of Canada deciding to detain its own caputred, but ignores the fact that the U.S. freely breaks international law.

                    Although I agree with him that the spoils from the west are being used to appeas those French frogs in Quebec. Although I agree with Chretiens stance on the war, I wouldnt mind seeing his French-appeasing ass thrown out.
                    Originally posted by ethan20
                    There's a correlation between cervixal cancer in women and un-circumsized penises. Not to mention it almost cuts your bacteria count on the penis in half.
                    Originally posted by reservoirGod
                    Ethan sure does know alot about dicks

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                    • #11
                      Oh, and if "Terrorists" or criminals go to the United States through Canada, its your ass. American immigration officers check you out going from Canada to America, not Canadian ones.

                      And lots of what this clown is un-substantiated nonsense or is just opinion. He says "maybe" "thought to be" and phrases that basically show he is spitting out his opinion, not fact.

                      In the wake of Sept 11th, I dont member haering about known terrorists being caught crossing the border from our side. I have heard of the United States detaining SUSPECTS, but magically we never hear of these people again (more than likely becuase it was discovered they were not terrorists, so they were quietly permitted to go.. you wont see front page news coverage saying "Suspected terrorist found to be innocent).

                      You know what I DO member hearing? That 500+ American flights were re-routed to Canada in a matter of hours, and people opening up their homes. I'm sure this dude was loving that open border then.
                      Originally posted by ethan20
                      There's a correlation between cervixal cancer in women and un-circumsized penises. Not to mention it almost cuts your bacteria count on the penis in half.
                      Originally posted by reservoirGod
                      Ethan sure does know alot about dicks

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                      • #12
                        'ITS NO SURPRISE FRANCE DIDNT HELP GET SADDAM HUSSEIN OUT OF IRAQ. THEY DIDNT HELP US GET THE GERMANS OUT OF FRANCE EITHER.'

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Triumph
                          But sadly this anti-war idiocy hasn’t been confined to the Rock ‘n’ Roll community. Recently, rapper Jay-Z, MC du Jour and head of Roc-A-Fella records, contributed a verse to the remix of European artist Panjabi MC's overseas hit "Beware of the Boys." Rhyming over the theme from Knight Rider, Jigga drops the following: We rebellious, we back home/ Screamin' 'Leave Iraq alone’. For all my soldiers in the field/ I will wish you safe return/ But only love kills war/ When will they learn?" It’s tough to know where to start with my criticism of Jay-Z. The situation is almost surreal. We have an ex-crack dealer, whose lyrics consistently make reference to street violence and murder, suddenly jumping on the anti-war celebrity bandwagon. I have no idea why Jigga man is suddenly so concerned with parroting the celebrity line on Iraq. The only plausible theory for the Jigga’s sudden anti-war activism is that since he is preparing to enter the motion picture industry, the world’s most fearless MC’s decision to parrot the Hollywood line is purely a business decision. So much for street cred HoVa.
                          Right you are. Well put.
                          "The world is changing and there are new opportunities for those who are ready to join forces with those who are stronger and more experienced" -Lucky Luciano (1897-1962)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Warpox
                            'ITS NO SURPRISE FRANCE DIDNT HELP GET SADDAM HUSSEIN OUT OF IRAQ. THEY DIDNT HELP US GET THE GERMANS OUT OF FRANCE EITHER.'
                            The last French guy with balls was Napolean
                            "The world is changing and there are new opportunities for those who are ready to join forces with those who are stronger and more experienced" -Lucky Luciano (1897-1962)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kEgBeGgEr

                              Why did like 14 of the hijcakers come from Saudi Arabia?
                              That so-called 9/11 hi-jacker theory is false, go read up on 9/11 at www.rense.com
                              Beg 4 Mercy

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