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  • March 24 - Rakim Interview [Part 2] .. Speaks on Dr. Dre and more ..

    Maybe it was too good to be true, but a collaborative album between Rakim and Dr. DreóOh My Godówas worth finding out. Aside from his appearance on Truth Hurtsí smash R&B hit ďAddictive,Ē Raís stint on Aftermath seemed doomed after years went by with no album to show for it. So when the inevitable split with Aftermath came in 2003, things looked grim for Ra. But his future looks bright since getting his C.E.O. on, founding his new label Ra Records (Click HERE for Part I of the interview if you missed it yesterday). With his new album, The Seventh Seal, on the way, Rakim Allah finally tells the truth about why he couldnít work with Dr. Dre.

    Back when you were leaving Aftermath, you said in some interviews that Dre wanted to go in one direction and you wanted to go in another. What exactly did you mean by that?

    The artist that I am is the artist I want to remain. My integrity and my pride for my craft, hip-hop and the hood is something that I donít want to play with. Dre, I respect him. Heís a smart cat, man. He knows whatís in the mainstream. But at the same time, picking the guns back up and talking about a lot of the dirt that Iíve been around and seen, I donít think thatís a smart move for me right now. I respect the people that I been around. I respect the neighborhood too much. I donít want to play myself short with that. The things that Iíve seen and the people that Iíve been around is real people. I respect them, and Iím not going to do nothing to put them out there.

    So, do you feel like there was a sort of pressure for you to talk about more street stuff when you were on Aftermath?

    Yeah, because basically thatís what Dre wanted to me to do. That was Dreís direction. My direction is the direction that Iíve been going in for the last few years.

    Was there ever a time Dre sat down and said, ďYou should rap about this sort of thingĒ?

    In a nutshell, no doubt. Dre got his people around him that would speak to me, or they would ask my manager to ask me. Sitting down in the studio and speaking to Dre, he would most of the time say, ďWell, thatís what I want you to talk about, Ra.Ē Things that go on in the íhood, things that Iíve been aroundóthatís what he wanted me to speak on and that was clear. And [from] some of the people at his label, that was they message as well.

    So you wouldnít want to rap about things that go on in the streets?

    I do grimy records, but it has to have a purpose. One of the grimiest records I did was ďJuice,Ē and that was for a movie. Its purpose was to show you the difference between what you think juice is and what happens if you take the wrong road. If I feel thereís a justification for it, like the Truth Hurts song that I didóthat record right there was a little controversial for me because of the content that I spoke on. A lot of people used to think I sold drugs, but I never did. But itís to the point now where everybody know I donít sell drugs. But on the record, [ďAddictiveĒ] was speaking on how she love her man regardless of what he do or what his job is. Regardless of where he at, he turn her pages. I like the song, I like Truth Hurts as an artist, so I did the song. I felt it was a little controversial, but thatís what the song was calling for. I like to make a point with what I do. I donít want to keep doing the same thing that I might have done before or keep doing the same thing that everybody else is doing right now. I donít feel thatís good for Ra, I donít think the world want that from Ra and I definitely donít want to hear that from Ra myself.

    So when he was trying to get you to go in that direction, where did you see your lyrical content going?

    I like the more conscious levels of hip-hop that bring awareness. Iím trying to get out of the stereotype that they put us in. Everybody donít have to rap about selling drugs, everybody ainít gotta rap about guns. A lot of people seen it, a lot of people been through it, but [if] you saturate the game with it, it gets to the point where thatís all there is. Iím that other dude; I want to rap about something else, I want to say something else. And at the end of the day, the íhood is going to embrace it. Thatís who I am. But I donít have to speak on negativity. If I got 15 records on my album, all 15 of them donít have to be about the ghetto miseries.

    Lyrical content aside, were there other reasons working with Dre was difficult for you? Did you have different methods of working?

    Nah, I can work in the morning, work at nightóthatís really no problem. It was just the content; I was trying to get on the same page. Thatís the main problem. Sometimes I get up in the morning now and work on something. If I feel like the creative energies is flowing, I do it in the morning, if not I wait till eight, nine, 10 at night when it get a little quieter. The time and the situations, thatís nothiní. Iím flexible with that.

    People say that Dre is kind of a control freak when it comes to his music. Is that something you experienced?

    Dre has been doing what heís been doing for a while and he feels that that formula is it. When somethingís not broke, you donít fix it, and thatís his formula. The only thing is, he gotta look at the artist sometimes. I came from my own beginnings as far as hip-hop. I didnít want him to feel that I was going to do 15 records about peace and shit. But, at the same time, I just wanted him to respect who I was because I respected who he was. I like rhyming on more New YorkĖoriented music, but I told Dre, ďLook dude, I know what you do. I love what you do. The world love what you do. So I have to get on some of them West Coast tracks.Ē Of course heís going to put a little Ra swing on it, but thatís what Dre do. Thatís what we love him for. I was ready to make the change and meet him halfway and I just wanted him to meet me a little more halfway as far as who I was and what I wanted to do.

    At this point in your career, you donít really have to prove anything to anyone. Realistically, what kind of commercial expectations do you have for this next album?

    I want to kind of finish what I started. It got to the point where itís eating me up. But as far as commercial [expectations], Iím not really reaching for nothiní. I think the world know what I do. They not expecting me to be extra radio-friendly as far as the sound of my music. I wanna do good music. I know the producers Iím gettiní at is gonna give me that big music, and Iíma do what the track calls for. Thatís the main thing that me and Eric B used to do when we did our album; we didnít sit down and try to make a single. We did 12, 13, 14 records on an album and after we finished the 14, we sat down and picked a single. But I think nowadays, people try to reach for a single or try to make a single. I just like to let it flow, man. I like the beat to tell me what to do and I take it from there. When I walk down the street for a young kid to say, Oh, thatís one of the greatest ever right there. Thatís enough for me. I donít have to reach.

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    Originally posted by midwestwitch
    If I were to find out it was you would be responsible for a teenage boy losing every ounce of a social life, cell phone, gaming consoles etc until he graduated high school and left for college.

  • #2
    Peops on the article +rep

    Can't wait for his new album.
    <MF DOOM>
    "They aint know the face , by the name they knew him/
    racist against rappers, they all looked the same to him"

    TRshady.com

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    • #3
      too bad it's not with aftermath, but i am looking forward to the new cd, I wonder what it's gonna sound like

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      • #4
        good that Rakim & Dre don't have any ill feelings towards each other and that they just had creative differences. I would hope that maybe there's a Dre track or two on the album, but i doubt it. Hopefully, Premier will be on the album tho that would be cool. I see how the Dre thing didnt work out tho...both of these dudes are pioneers of music & came out around the same era from two opposite sides of the country. It's a beautiful thing when they make music together, but its hard to do if they each wanna go their own way w/ the music kinda especially for a whole album. Dre's the type of person when u put him on board to produce a record it's pretty much his creativity over the thing matched w/ ur lyrics... so i can see that Ra just wanted to get some beats & do his thing over them but Dre likes to master the songs he produces and make em the best they can be in his ears...that's why he works so well w/ new artists like when he brought out Snoop, Em, 50, & Game cause those dudes are new and he molds their music to what he feels is good...Rakim is a pioneer himself and is just tryna get his lyrical shit out there...if u notice tho the first albums the previous artists did were their best cause Dre was behind alotta the creativity. Snoop's 1st album was his best, Em's first two were his best, & 50's first was his best, so hopefully Game's new album is under Dre direction so his second will be a banger unlike 50's album which only had 2 Dre beats & wasn't executive produced by Dre. Dre's formula does work...Eminem's Encore sucked cause Dre wasn't the executive producer. Dre is best at bringing out new artists or working w/ artists who he will have complete control over. Anyway, i see why they couldn't work, hopefully Ra's album comes out nice.

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        • #5
          To add to that, i think it would be perfect if Rakim was on a track off of Detox...that would be a Dre song so if he enlisted Ra to rhyme on it, Ra would do it as Dre wanted and i dont think there would be problems as long as the content wasn't something Ra totally disagreed w/. This would be sick, maybe they could be on a track w/ Jay-Z & Nas...just a thought but i think it would be cool to see.

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          • #6
            Rakim is so fucking real.

            Good shit.
            "Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile."
            - Kurt Vonnegut

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pyromaniac6687
              good that Rakim & Dre don't have any ill feelings towards each other and that they just had creative differences. I would hope that maybe there's a Dre track or two on the album, but i doubt it. Hopefully, Premier will be on the album tho that would be cool. I see how the Dre thing didnt work out tho...both of these dudes are pioneers of music & came out around the same era from two opposite sides of the country. It's a beautiful thing when they make music together, but its hard to do if they each wanna go their own way w/ the music kinda especially for a whole album. Dre's the type of person when u put him on board to produce a record it's pretty much his creativity over the thing matched w/ ur lyrics... so i can see that Ra just wanted to get some beats & do his thing over them but Dre likes to master the songs he produces and make em the best they can be in his ears...that's why he works so well w/ new artists like when he brought out Snoop, Em, 50, & Game cause those dudes are new and he molds their music to what he feels is good...Rakim is a pioneer himself and is just tryna get his lyrical shit out there...if u notice tho the first albums the previous artists did were their best cause Dre was behind alotta the creativity. Snoop's 1st album was his best, Em's first two were his best, & 50's first was his best, so hopefully Game's new album is under Dre direction so his second will be a banger unlike 50's album which only had 2 Dre beats & wasn't executive produced by Dre. Dre's formula does work...Eminem's Encore sucked cause Dre wasn't the executive producer. Dre is best at bringing out new artists or working w/ artists who he will have complete control over. Anyway, i see why they couldn't work, hopefully Ra's album comes out nice.
              Dude, look on the back of ENCORE and The Massacre...DR. DRE IS the executive producer...What are u smoking?

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              • #8
                ^Dr.Dre had more part in "Encore" than he ever did on "the eminem show" and the "8 mile OST"...and both the latter albums kicked encore's ass.
                25 to life.

                Recovery

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                • #9
                  has anyone ever dreamed about a Rakim & KRS-ONE collaboration like i did?
                  MGK is the future

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                  • #10
                    remember when rakim got a grill and started talking about money and bitches
                    and everyone said he sold out? haha

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zeus_who
                      has anyone ever dreamed about a Rakim & KRS-ONE collaboration like i did?
                      No.

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                      • #12
                        if dre is partly to blame for massacre and encore, he should stay out and just make beats lol
                        PROOF - Because of proof they put the G in the alphabet.
                        R.I.P PROOF - ANOTHER HIP-HOP SOLDIER LOST
                        Originally posted by Chino XL
                        no need for viagra, your album leaves me bored stiff

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Manuel
                          Was there ever a time Dre sat down and said, “You should rap about this sort of thing”?

                          In a nutshell, no doubt. Dre got his people around him that would speak to me, or they would ask my manager to ask me. Sitting down in the studio and speaking to Dre, he would most of the time say, “Well, that’s what I want you to talk about, Ra.” Things that go on in the ’hood, things that I’ve been around—that’s what he wanted me to speak on and that was clear. And [from] some of the people at his label, that was they message as well.

                          [Whisper]:
                          Watcher

                          [Jay-Z]:
                          Yeah...uh...it's what I do for a livin' n^gga
                          Eat for a livin' n^gga (watcher)
                          That's how I live for a livin' n^gga...(watcher)
                          Okay, let's do this (the watcher)

                          [Verse 1 - Jay-Z]:
                          Things just ain't the same for gangstas
                          But I'm a little too famous to shoot these prankstas
                          All of these rap singers claimin' they bangers
                          Doin' all sorts of twisted shit with they fingers
                          Disrespectin' the game, no home trainin' or manners
                          I was doin' this shit when you was shittin' in Pampers
                          I was movin' them grams 'fore you, knew what a hand that hand was
                          Duckin' the vans, radars, the scanners
                          'Fore you knew what hard white to tame was
                          I was hittin' the turnpike, aight with the bammers
                          I was nice with my hands, cuss aight with them hammers
                          I was prickin' my finger 'fore you knew what the Fam was
                          I had it laid out 'fore you knew what a plan was
                          Three hundred mill' later, now you understand us
                          Ya'll ain't see us comin' through Vegas
                          You ever seen so much cham' bust in one night
                          Grand fucked up one fight
                          I was on the Peter Pan bus
                          You was Peter Pan up in your room, ya'll fuckin' with whom?
                          Allowed me to be taught
                          You cowards is just now learnin' the shit that we talk
                          You n^ggaz ain't know about a Rob Report
                          'Bout a high speed Porshe, i.e.
                          You n^ggaz ain't know how to floss 'til I came through the door
                          Like "Eric B. for Pres," respect me in the BITCH
                          You can't disrespect us cause you got a little check cut
                          You was suckin' for so long, fuckin' your little neck up
                          Now you too big for your britches, you got a few little bitches
                          You think you Hugh Hefner, you just ridiculous
                          I blew breath for you midgets, I gave life to the game
                          It's only right I got the right to be kind
                          n^ggaz that got life really like what I sing
                          Cause they know is he really like, n^ggaz feel my pain
                          Know the shit I DON'T write to be the illest shit that's ever been recited
                          In the game, word to the hyphen in my NAME
                          J, A, Y, dash, hypha
                          The past, presemt n^gga the future, proper
                          The holy trinity of hip hop is us
                          We give, Dre his props but that's where it stops
                          It's the Roc

                          [Chorus - Truth Hurts]:
                          I know, you got your eyes on me
                          I feel you watchin' me
                          But it ain't hard to see that you can't see me
                          You try, but what you think you saw
                          Ain't what you thought you saw
                          You better off not lookin' at all
                          (Everywhere that I go, ain't the same as befo')
                          (People I used to know, just don't know me no mo')
                          (But everywhere that I go, I got people I know)
                          (Who got people they know, so I suggest you lay low)

                          [Verse 2 - Dr. Dre]:
                          I'm still on top of the game
                          Still droppin' flames, still cock and aim
                          Still at the top had the Roc for the fame
                          Over setbacks, there's been a lot since I came
                          You seen it all, how I got, how I gained
                          THe momentum when it dropped low, how I got through the pain
                          When I roll and shock, they watched me reclaim
                          The streets, they made a special spot for my name
                          Dre, haters wanna stop to my reign
                          But the music lives in me, every drop in my veins
                          The pride and the pain
                          All the way back from the rise of my name
                          See the world clear through the eyes of the mane
                          See the world clear for the rhymes that I gave
                          When the beat bangs it'll drive them insane
                          The eyes that I played
                          The best to emerge in the game is the Watcher

                          [Chorus]



                          [Verse 3 - Rakim]:
                          I'm "Rated R," my brain contains graphics thangs
                          It turn traumatic teens into addicts, and fiends
                          It's like, watchin' a movie through a panoramic screen
                          Which means, I can see the whole planet in the scene
                          Cash is the topic, the object, a fatter pocket
                          Some take the crack and chop it, but those that haven't got it
                          Take away the added profit, it's catastrophic
                          I take the gat and cock it, and I'll sit back and watch it
                          These New Yorks streets is ugly, I keep it gully
                          The world is mine and can't nobody keep it from me
                          Yo, my neighborhood is never sunny
                          In the place where the number one cause of death and money
                          You can try copin'
                          I've seen enough shit to leave your frame of mind broken
                          I'm still alive and scopin'
                          Be another hundred years 'til my skies close in
                          And I'm a die with my eyes open, the watcher



                          The way I see it, I think Dr. Dre just wanted to help motivate Rakim to spit more (verses) bars, kind of like he did for that "The Watcher II [2002]" CLASSIC joint... that Ra verse is credible/believable in the streets.


                          But on the other hand, I can respect Ra for being and/or staying TRUE to Himself (first), his Family, his Hood and his true Hip Hop Fans.

                          Originally posted by Manuel
                          I like the more conscious levels of hip-hop that bring awareness. I’m trying to get out of the stereotype that they put us in. Everybody don’t have to rap about selling drugs, everybody ain’t gotta rap about guns. A lot of people seen it, a lot of people been through it, but [if] you saturate the game with it, it gets to the point where that’s all there is. I’m that other dude; I want to rap about something else, I want to say something else. And at the end of the day, the ’hood is going to embrace it. That’s who I am. But I don’t have to speak on negativity. If I got 15 records on my album, all 15 of them don’t have to be about the ghetto miseries.


                          Can't wait to see what Ra has to bring to the table... thx-4 posting the 2nd part of this interview mayne (ya dig, 1ne).
                          Last edited by Itz_X4Change; 03-24-2006, 10:20 AM.
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                          • #14
                            good read
                            "Let no man seperate what we create"
                            "Makaveli 1996"

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                            • #15
                              ^Yeah, The Watcher 2 is a fucking classic track
                              Originally posted by SteWonYou
                              sometimes you have to do what you have to do, and that might involve sucking dick
                              Originally posted by Temerity
                              understood that you don't fuck with Swizz
                              Originally posted by Nianco
                              Swizz...*Sighs*..I really hate you so much. I just want you to know that.

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