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  • Is hip-hop a black music?

    Theres a lot of opposite opinions about hip-hop origins. Was it invented by black people, white, latino or everybody? Please express your opinion in poll.

    Of course I got my own opinion too.
    98
    Blacks
    47.96%
    47
    Whites
    7.14%
    7
    Equally blacks & whites
    4.08%
    4
    All kinds of people
    38.78%
    38
    artists like Frank Sinatra or Bob Dylan
    2.04%
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    Last edited by slipknot333; 04-20-2004, 02:35 PM.
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    its obviously black music u retard
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    • #3
      hip hop was essentially created and cultivated by blacks and puerto ricans...then as it became more popular, it spread and affected other people, now there are all sorts of people embracing it...

      there shouldn't be opposite opinions on the originators of hip hop; it's very clear it was something within inner city communities in the bronx, amongst blacks and hispanics...there should be no argument there...however, it's a worldwide phenomenom now, so it includes people of different races, backgrounds, etc...

      it's not just black music anymore, however, the day that people start forgetting where it came from is the day that hip hop (or rap in particular) will suffer the same fate as rock...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tone Riggz

        it's not just black music anymore, however, the day that people start forgetting where it came from is the day that hip hop (or rap in particular) will suffer the same fate as rock...



        what fate of rock r u talkin about?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by slipknot333
          what fate of rock r u talkin about?

          becoming a hybrid genre from it's original black roots...

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          • #6
            and puerto ricans...
            can u argue that please ?

            imho.. hip-hop aint jus black music..
            dont judge if u aint wanta be judged

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            • #7
              It's obvious that it's neither black nor white music. It's ignorant to think different. Yes, it was started by blacks and puerto ricans but it has grown to be much more than "their" music.
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              • #8
                it's black music and white people look funny participating in it
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GisT
                  can u argue that please ?

                  imho.. hip-hop aint jus black music..

                  well, if you believe that rap was started in the south bronx inner cities, then you would also have to believe that since puerto ricans made up most of the 70s-80s bronx inner city communities, they had to play a part in hip hop, especially since they lived integrated with blacks...of course, they were hated on because hip hop was mostly a Black thing, but they still played a huge part in its cultivation in the bronx...and that can be seen with the cold crush brothers, rocksteady crew, the different rappers that emerged from that time period (big pun, fat joe, la bruja, g bo da pro, Tony Touch, etc.), graffiti artists like COPE 2, TATS CRU, the NYC Breakers, Dynasty Rockers, etc...

                  a good book on this is "new york ricans from the hip hop zone," of course bare in mind that it is a puerto rican person who wrote it, nonetheless it is very informative...

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                  • #10
                    yea.. thanks... well...
                    but anyways as u sayin "hip hop was mostly a Black thing".. aint this supposed to mean.. that blacks started it all?
                    Last edited by GisT; 04-11-2004, 03:20 PM.
                    dont judge if u aint wanta be judged

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                    • #11
                      ^ He just explained it wasn't only Blacks that started it all.

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                      • #12
                        u got wrong ma words.. don take me as dumb... what i mean.. historicly.. wasnt that black guys who wrote first hip-hop song?
                        dont judge if u aint wanta be judged

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                        • #13
                          Hip-hop is not black culture. Black culture is not hip-hop. They are not mutually exclusive, but they are not one and the same.

                          But you can see why people would make this mistake. It's an easy one to make. From the outside looking in, most of the faces you see involved in hip-hop seem to be black. Well actually, scratch that, most of the faces you see involved with RAP are black. When John Doe walks along the "Rap/Hip-Hop/R&B" section of his local record store, he seems to see only black faces. On the TV in the rap videos, he's gonna see a lot more black faces than any other. John Doe is gonna think that hip-hop is black culture.

                          So yes, most of the visible rappers out there are black, but what about the DJs? What about the graf writers? What about the b-boys and b-girls? What about the people who buy the music? What about the people who respect the culture, follow it, love it? What about those who put on, promote and organise the shows? Those who attend the shows? Those who contribute to hip-hop magazines and newsletters? Those who read the same magazines and newsletters? If someone could count up all those people, it would be extremely obvious that hip-hop isn't black culture. Hip-hop is universal.

                          Hip-hop has always been its own culture. Not all of the fathers and godfathers of hip-hop were black, as Tone's already illustrated. It was born in the South Bronx in black and hispanic communities. It certainly wasn't limited to these groups. The original breakers were black and hispanic. The first graf writer isn't black. A lot of the best DJs are white. There's always been white emcees, even if they were smaller in number than black ones. Hip-hop is a melting pot of different races, ethnic groups, styles, cultures. Hip-hop still is composed of all these things, as well as different age groups, nationalities and languages. That's one of the greatest things about hip-hop, it transcends race, religion, ethnicity. Hip-hop is its own culture.
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                          • #14
                            ^Well said. I've read some of our other posts to, which are all pretty intelligent posts. It's members like you and Tone who make this board as good as it is. Much respect to the both.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Illphrenic
                              it's black music and white people look funny participating in it
                              LMFAO

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